Hi Sergey,
El 8/5/20 16:28, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Sergey Myasoedov via
anti-abuse-wg" escribió:
Dear Jordi,
> There are existing procedures for that in extreme cases.
I think it's now obvious that existing procedures does not work.
[Jordi] I don't think so, however if that
Hi Alessandro,
El 8/5/20 20:18, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Alessandro Vesely"
escribió:
On Fri 08/May/2020 13:28:10 +0200 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
wrote:
> Hi Alessandro,
>
> As I've indicated already several times (and not just in this
discussion), all the
Hi Nick,
El 8/5/20 23:58, "Nick Hilliard" escribió:
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote on 08/05/2020 12:07:
> [Jordi] The job of the RIPE NCC is to implement the policies agreed
> by the community. Different folks may consider different pieces of
> all of our policies
I think we all need to re-read, from time to time, RFC7282.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 9/5/20 18:21, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Sérgio Rocha"
escribió:
Hi everyone
Otherwise we change the way the working Groups works it will remain unchanged
for ever.
I agree th
Hi Nick, all,
In many situations "rough consensus" was reached after many versions. Sometimes
is a matter of finding the right balance, "the point in the middle" I was
referring before. Even if it takes 10 versions instead of just 2.
The issue is for the chairs, not an easy task, in the way to
I don't think EU laws are useless towards non-EU countries that break them.
In the case of privacy, they will not be able to keep doing business with the
EU.
In a more understanding way, EU (or EU members) reach agreements with specific
countries so the sanctions can be applied as well, includi
Hi Jordi,
EU laws are for EU and not all countries care if they can do bussines with
EU, lots of assumption i guess.
Regards,
Arash
On Tue, 12 May 2020, 20:12 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg, <
anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
> I don't think EU laws are useless towards non-EU countries
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote on 11/05/2020 18:23:
All I am asking is that cobblers stick to their last. People with
backgrounds in routing and networking are not necessarily the people in
their organizations that handle abuse issues.
From another point of view, you're asking for the RIPE NCC R
Peace,
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:29 PM Arash Naderpour
wrote:
> EU laws are for EU
Perhaps sadly for some, but this is not how it works. EU laws protect
EU citizens wherever they are, or the EU citizens' personal and
sensitive data wherever it is accessed, processed, or stored.
--
Töma
Hi Jordy,
On Tue 12/May/2020 11:34:19 +0200 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
>> El 8/5/20 20:18, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Alessandro Vesely"
>> escribió:
>> On Fri 08/May/2020 13:28:10 +0200 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As I've indicated already se
- On May 12, 2020, at 4:51 AM, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
Peace,
> Peace,
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:29 PM Arash Naderpour
> wrote:
>> EU laws are for EU
> Perhaps sadly for some, but this is not how it works. EU laws protect
> EU citizens wherever they are, or the EU citizens' personal
Peace,
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 10:13 PM Sabri
> First of all, there is the requirement for the non-EU company to
> *intentionally* provide goods or services to the EU. That can be found in
> article 3(2)a.
>
Well, virtually that's exactly our case: an employee of an Israeli company
promotes their
- On May 12, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Töma Gavrichenkov
wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2020, 10:13 PM Sabri
>> First of all, there is the requirement for the non-EU company to
>> intentionally
>> provide goods or services to the EU. That can be found in article 3(2)a.
> Well, virtually that's exactl
would those helpful folk kindly giving us legal opinions please tell us
your legal credentials? it would help us better calibrate your legal
assertions. thanks.
randy
Two quick points here:
The money collected by Data Protection Agency fines aren’t for the ones
claiming, but for the respective governments.
If the abuse country don’t have an agreement with the EU to collect that fine,
the EU can seize it later on, at any time, when there is a payment from th
Hi Alessandro,
El 12/5/20 19:26, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Alessandro Vesely"
escribió:
Hi Jordy,
On Tue 12/May/2020 11:34:19 +0200 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
wrote:
>> El 8/5/20 20:18, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Alessandro Vesely"
escribió:
>> On Fri 08/M
A good summary Sabri.
One of the points that has not been addressed (fully) is the fact that the
mailing went out to 'role accounts' which are normally company accounts (if
some used a personal email address for that, than this will have suddenly
become a business email address), so GDPR appli
I’m not sure if this is true in all the cases, because a physical person can
also have PI resources and then a personal email in the database.
There is one more point, which I’m discussing with the Spanish DPA in the
constitutional court, and it is the classification between personal and comp
I have been told both things. That company email accounts wouldn't fall on its
scope (even if they contained the full name) and that such usage would be
improperly treating PII.
GDPR seems to mostly leave that part to Directive 2002/58/EC, which isn't
completely clear:
Article 13
Unsolicited c
El mar, 12-05-2020 a las 22:21 +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-
abuse-wg escribió:
> You misunderstood me. I'm not advocating de-registration of IP
> resources. I
> meant to remove just the abuse-c email address, since it does not
> work. As an
> alternative, as Àngel noted, the
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