Re: [anti-abuse-wg] IPv4 squatting -- Courtesy of AS44050, AS58552

2020-12-02 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Brian Nisbet wrote: >My comments about the apnic-talk address was that I wasn't sure if that list >was used to the kind of content, and I was worried that it might not get >Ronald's message where it would it best for it to go... I've looked around and frankly, the pickings, when

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] IPv4 squatting -- Courtesy of AS44050, AS58552

2020-12-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
I know him and trust him enough to have workable proposals. So, thank you very much for your opinion but I’m afraid I fail to share it. From: Elad Cohen Date: Wednesday, 2 December 2020 at 8:38 PM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian , Michele Neylon - Blacknight , IP Abuse Research , Serge Droz Cc: "a

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] IPv4 squatting -- Courtesy of AS44050, AS58552

2020-12-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Please feel free to come up with workable proposals then 😊 At leat that way the conversation stays operational From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight Date: Wednesday, 2 December 2020 at 8:14 PM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian , IP Abuse Research , Serge Droz Cc: "anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" Subject: Re: [a

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] IPv4 squatting -- Courtesy of AS44050, AS58552

2020-12-02 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg
I don’t think it’s simply a matter of two sides, which your language attempts to categorise it as. Some of us refuse to have our processes and businesses dictated to by people who won’t listen to reasonable arguments against their unworkable proposals -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solution

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] IPv4 squatting -- Courtesy of AS44050, AS58552

2020-12-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
+1 – most of the activity on this list has been people from the anti abuse community come up with suggestions that the RIPE regulars find unworkable, and then many people spend lots of time pointing out why the proposal is unworkable. So far I have not seen one case of a proposal coming in from

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] IPv4 squatting -- Courtesy of AS44050, AS58552

2020-12-02 Thread IP Abuse Research
I'd like to second Serge's sentiment, RFG catches a good deal of abuse for his contributions, which we have all seen on this and other lists. What the continued findings indicate is a need for IANA and the RIRs to adapt to a new stage in the resource issuance and governance lifecycle. Since this is

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] IPv4 squatting -- Courtesy of AS44050, AS58552

2020-12-02 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:42 PM Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: > AS44050 is basically the SOHO provider for the St. Petersburg Internet > Exchange. St. Petersburg's population is slightly below 5 million > people, not counting satellite cities and suburbs (which, if counted, > would contribute

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] IPv4 squatting -- Courtesy of AS44050, AS58552

2020-12-02 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:53 AM Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >> Please be advised that the set of IPv4 blocks listed below appear to be > >> squatted on at the present time, with the apparent aid and assistance of > >> AS44050 -- "Petersburg Internet Network Ltd." (Russia) and also AS58552

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] IPv4 squatting -- Courtesy of AS44050, AS58552

2020-12-02 Thread Brian Nisbet
Folks, I should be clear here, the Co-Chairs have no objection to the first post, nothing at all. Personally I'm happy for misbehaviour to be called out, while obviously ensuring that people aren't unfairly tarred with bad brushes. My comments about the apnic-talk address was that I wasn't sur

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] IPv4 squatting -- Courtesy of AS44050, AS58552

2020-12-02 Thread Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg
First of: Congrats and thank you Ronald for this work. What makes me a bit sad is, that posting this here immediately starts a discussion about what is expected behavior on these lists, rather than how we could combat abuse more efficiently. It seems a seeminglu, to me at least, humorous remark,