Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-02 Thread Steve Linford
> On 1 Nov 2023, at 13:56, John Levine wrote: > > It appears that à ngel Gonzalez Berdasco via anti-abuse-wg > said: >>> Just block their network 80.94.95.0/24 and forget about it. > >> organisation: ORG-BA1515-RIPE >> org-name: BtHoster LTD >> country:GB >> org-type: O

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-02 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg
Peter Economic incentives make a lot of sense. In the domain space we’ve seen registries offering promotions that are linked to a registrar’s “rating” and it seems to work. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ htt

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-02 Thread Peter Koch
Moin, On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 02:37:27PM -0700, Leo Vegoda wrote: > Sure, but that's a membership decision and not a community decision. this perceived disconnect is a re-occuring scheme and therefore deserves a bit more thought, albeit not in this WG but likely in NCC Services and/or Address Po

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-02 Thread U.Mutlu
Just to give a feedback: Yesterday I had complained about the said IP 80.94.95.181 also to RIPE NCC via their WebMail contact page, which went to supp...@ripe.net and opened a ticket: https://www.ripe.net/contact-form Luckily the worst hacking attempts originating from these IPs finally have sto

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-02 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg
Gert I think a lot of us were not going to accept ANY changes to the charging scheme that time round. Anyway .. history now .. Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-02 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:29:52AM +, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: > The ASN cost for us would have had practically no impact ? we only have two > and I suspect we?re getting rid of one at some point. > > However the other costs that the charging schemes suggested would have cost

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-02 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg
Gert The ASN cost for us would have had practically no impact – we only have two and I suspect we’re getting rid of one at some point. However the other costs that the charging schemes suggested would have cost us thousands – and that simply wasn’t acceptable Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Bla

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-02 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:19:13AM +, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: > That?s a massive over simplification of what happened. > > The NCC proposed a number of charging schemes which *included* charges per > ASN. The proposal was rejected by the majority of the members who voted > be

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-02 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg
Gert That’s a massive over simplification of what happened. The NCC proposed a number of charging schemes which *included* charges per ASN. The proposal was rejected by the majority of the members who voted because the changes would have cost a lot of us significantly more than what we currentl

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-02 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:21:01AM +0100, Shane Kerr wrote: > (*) I guess? I admit to never having read the details of how charging is > set, since I have never represented a RIPE NCC member. members vote at the RIPE AGM, to select one out of a number of possible charging schemes proposed by

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-02 Thread Shane Kerr
Leo, On 01/11/2023 22.37, Leo Vegoda wrote: On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 14:26, Gert Doering wrote: On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 01:45:03PM -0700, Leo Vegoda wrote: The RIPE NCC periodically asks the community about the priority for cleaning up unused ASNs, e.g. - https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/w