Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

2024-04-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
I was expecting something like this for a long, long time, to be honest. What you now have is something created for want of that mythical beast, the internet police, which nobody ever seems to be. --srs From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Alex de Joode Sent: Thu

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

2024-04-10 Thread Alex de Joode
​The EU is working on implementing the e-Evidence directive. This means any-and-all EU based LEO's can request data from RIPE NCC and RIPE NCC needs to supply the data if it has the data available. No 'let us check' no 'you can have this via our website' answers possible anymore. This will most

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

2024-04-10 Thread Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg
Hi Randy Agreed and I'm not saying we should just hand everything over on a gold plate to LE. Bien we cannot just say no all the time, but should actually come up with solutions we feel are good or a good compromise. I expect LE to understand our issues, but we should understand theirs Best S

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

2024-04-10 Thread Randy Bush
> In a recent talk Jane Easterly said: "The private sector has promised > better security for yeas but has not delivered. This has to change". was this not in the context of software and platform safety? easterly has been riding that hobby horse for a few years, and with serious justification. b

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 146, Issue 10

2024-04-10 Thread Wout de Natris
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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

2024-04-10 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg
Serge As I said, it’s an odd attempt at making a point, if that’s what it is. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: ht

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

2024-04-10 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg
Suresh The devil is in the details…. Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hos

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

2024-04-10 Thread Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg
Hi Michele As I said: They may make a point. Maybe they don't understand what RIPS dies. But that's an assumption, and the tech community tends to underrate authorities, so don't count on it. Best Serge On 10.04.24 11:32, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: Serge The report speaks about Fre

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

2024-04-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
LEA especially the computer crime part of LEA has been dealing with RIRs for some decades now? The specifics of this case would be interesting. --srs From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

2024-04-10 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg
Serge The report speaks about French LEA asking RIPE for data that RIPE does not have. You then go off on some complete tangent about governments not being satisfied with tech companies. How are the two related? What purpose does asking RIPE (or anyone else) for data they simply do not have s