Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-07-08 Thread Gilles Massen
Hi Piotr, >> Specifically: forcing people to add an abuse-c as a matter of ticking a >> checkbox leads to not-working or ignored abuse email boxes. And I rather >> have no abuse-c than an ignored one - it is a clear signal and leads to >> much better use of a reporters time. > > This argument cou

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-07-05 Thread Piotr Strzyzewski
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 09:59:47PM +0200, Gilles Massen wrote: Dear AA-WG As a kind of post-mortem comment: > Specifically: forcing people to add an abuse-c as a matter of ticking a > checkbox leads to not-working or ignored abuse email boxes. And I rather > have no abuse-c than an ignored one -

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-05-27 Thread Niall O'Reilly
On 26 May 2016, at 10:15, Gilles Massen wrote: […] a community that has been granted extensive exemptions from RIPE policies […] With respect, I have to disagree with this characterization of the situation. Holders of legacy resources have not been _granted_ any exemption from RIPE p

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-05-26 Thread Gilles Massen
Brian, I beg to differ - the argument is on scope. Even if my comments apply to abuse-c as a whole, they are still valid for the more narrow legacy space, and I see no reason to impose a bad idea to more people for the sake of uniformity. Especially not to a community that has been granted extensi

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-05-26 Thread Peter Koch
Brian, On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 09:43:59AM +0200, Brian Nisbet wrote: > Thanks for the contribution, but I would like to remind you and the > community that abuse-c is a reality, that policy reached consensus some > time ago! questionable. > Can we please frame the discussion on this policy in

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-05-26 Thread anfernandez
[brian.nis...@heanet.ie] Enviado el: jueves, 26 de mayo de 2016 9:43 Para: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Asunto: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy) Gilles, Thanks for the contribution, but I would

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-05-26 Thread Brian Nisbet
Gilles, Thanks for the contribution, but I would like to remind you and the community that abuse-c is a reality, that policy reached consensus some time ago! Can we please frame the discussion on this policy in that context, rather than referring to points outside of that scope? Thanks, B

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-05-25 Thread Gilles Massen
Hi, While I do agree with the rationale in "It will benefit the entire Internet community to have better quality abuse contact data", I don't believe that the policy text provides any help towards that goal, quite the contrary. Specifically: forcing people to add an abuse-c as a matter of ticking

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-05-25 Thread Sascha Luck [ml]
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 01:21:05PM +0200, Marco Schmidt wrote: The main difference from version 1.0 is that the policy will be only applied when creating or modifying Legacy Internet Resource objects in the RIPE Database. Since the creation of abuse-c means a considerable effort, there exists a

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-05-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
+1 --srs > On 25-May-2016, at 9:52 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight > wrote: > > All internet resources, be they IP addresses or domain names, should have an > accessible abuse contact. This proposal addresses this gap for legacy IP > space and should be adopted. > > Regards > > Michele >

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-05-25 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight
All internet resources, be they IP addresses or domain names, should have an accessible abuse contact. This proposal addresses this gap for legacy IP space and should be adopted. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/

[anti-abuse-wg] 2016-01 Discussion Period Extended Until 21 June 2016 (Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy)

2016-05-23 Thread Marco Schmidt
Dear colleagues, The Discussion Phase for 2016-01, "Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy” has been extended until 21 June 2016. The goal of this proposal is to extend ripe-563, "Abuse Contact Management in the RIPE Database” to include Legacy Internet Resource Holde