Re: [anti-abuse-wg] NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes

2020-09-23 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
HI When Tobias and I first developed the "abuse-c:" mechanism we wanted to keep the design simple. But eventually we were overruled by the community who preferred ease of use over simple design. So we are where we are :)  cheersdenis co-chair DB-WG On Wednesday, 23 September 2020, 13:14:38

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes

2020-09-23 Thread Stephane.Dodeller
Hello Leo, Hello all, >I have no objection to creating useful tools for people to use when >managing their resources. That said, whenever the data structure is so > complex that a special tool is needed to help people understand it, I >wonder if the real problem is the data

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes

2020-09-22 Thread Leo Vegoda
Hi Denis, On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 4:45 PM ripede...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > > Hi Leo > > I was proposing a tool to help the registrant manage their data. If you want > to find the abuse contact you just query the resource and the abuse contact > is returned. I have no objection to creating

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes

2020-09-22 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
Hi Leo I was proposing a tool to help the registrant manage their data. If you want to find the abuse contact you just query the resource and the abuse contact is returned. cheersdenis co-chair DB-WG On Tuesday, 22 September 2020, 23:13:02 CEST, Leo Vegoda wrote: Hi Denis, On Tue,

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes

2020-09-22 Thread Leo Vegoda
Hi Denis, On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 1:51 PM ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg wrote: [...] > Over time, with large hierarchies, we could end up with very complex > arrangements with objects, attributes and values that have been overlooked > and forgotten about. Even though they may have been

[anti-abuse-wg] NWI reviews: NWI-1 staying on top of abuse contact changes

2020-09-22 Thread ripedenis--- via anti-abuse-wg
Colleagues This is now a very old NWI that never got out of the starting blocks. I am posting this to the AA-WG as I think the discussion is more relevant to this community given the impact of not properly managing this data. https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/db-wg/2016-May/005234.html