Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision

2017-02-17 Thread ox
Now, I am replying to myself, and doing so, for the purposes of an abuse complaint notification. How this works: 1. I do understand that many of the multiple replies I am receiving from the abusive person, is not on the emailing list itself. 2. The reason I am posting this on the emailing list

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision

2017-02-17 Thread Sascha Luck [ml]
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 04:22:55PM +, HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker wrote: cuz we thought it should be more like 'ddos ddos ddos' 'hijacked prefix' 'ddos' 'mass hack' 'ddos' 'someone switched off the electricity' 'someone cut some fibers'...'spamhaus illegally scraped the ripe db for

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision

2017-02-17 Thread Sascha Luck [ml]
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 04:45:54PM +, Brian Nisbet wrote: We are not here to talk about other instances. This is about one instance. There does need to be further conversation about the AA-WG community and the list. Agree. There is quite a lot of material that did not make it to the list

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision

2017-02-17 Thread Sascha Luck [ml]
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 04:19:15PM +0100, Gert Doering wrote: There is a fine line between "freedom of speech" and "violating the freedom of others". An argument used exclusively by wannabe censors over the centuries. I consider it discredited. Anyone should be free to state their opinions.

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision

2017-02-17 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:44:16PM -0200, Marilson wrote: > I may not agree to any of the words you say, but I will defend to the death > the right of you to say them. There is a fine line between "freedom of speech" and "violating the freedom of others". Anyone should be free to state

[anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision

2017-02-17 Thread Marilson
ecision (ox) 6. Re: WG Chair Mailing List Decision (Brian Nisbet) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:05:19 + From: Brian Nisbet <brian.nis...@heanet.ie> To: "'anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net'" <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Cc: "aa-wg-ch...@ripe.net" <aa-wg-ch...@

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision

2017-02-16 Thread Brian Nisbet
Sascha, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote on 16/02/2017 14:40: On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 01:05:19PM +, Brian Nisbet wrote: This morning Tobias and I asked the NCC to take the very unusual step, effectively immediately, of removing the person behind sv...@xs4all.nl from the Anti-Abuse WG mailing list.

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision

2017-02-16 Thread ox
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:40:02 + "Sascha Luck [ml]" wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 01:05:19PM +, Brian Nisbet wrote: > >This morning Tobias and I asked the NCC to take the very unusual > >step, effectively immediately, of removing the person behind > >sv...@xs4all.nl from

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision

2017-02-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Do name names. Who – according to you – is a sockpuppet here? Or a troll? All I see in this email is a series of stream of consciousness accusations but zero specifics. To be plain – I think many people on this list, you included, have zero background in abuse mitigation, and engaging in any

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WG Chair Mailing List Decision

2017-02-16 Thread Sascha Luck [ml]
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 01:05:19PM +, Brian Nisbet wrote: This morning Tobias and I asked the NCC to take the very unusual step, effectively immediately, of removing the person behind sv...@xs4all.nl from the Anti-Abuse WG mailing list. This was not done lightly, rather it was done to