Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
There is rough consensus so that many mailing list manager software have similar implementations. Details to be hashed out, bugs to be fixed, hairs to be split, all the usual details remaining of course. --srs > On 22-Feb-2017, at 11:23 AM, Hans Petter Holen wrote: > > > >> On 21 February

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-22 Thread Hans Petter Holen
On 21 February 2017 at 16:27, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > The question before the house is ripe's mailing list software being > configured to appropriately rewrite headers to support dmarc > > As this is a topic that interests me in my day job, I tried to read up on the IETF list on how to "

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
The question before the house is ripe's mailing list software being configured to appropriately rewrite headers to support dmarc --srs > On 21-Feb-2017, at 7:15 AM, Gert Doering wrote: > > None of the working group chairs have a personal @ripe.net address. > > Gert Doering >-- NetMas

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-21 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight
I wouldn’t expect anyone to, but the entire “fix X on RIPE” .. -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts:

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-21 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 02:03:36PM +, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: > He doesn???t have a RIPE email address apparently .. so .. None of the working group chairs have a personal @ripe.net address. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? S

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-21 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight
Suresh He doesn’t have a RIPE email address apparently .. so .. Now why he doesn’t have a RIPE email address is probably another matter entirely ☺ M -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
DMARC policy compliance is something that RIPE needs to fix at their end – ensuring that the mailing list manager rewrites headers appropriately. Most mailing list manager software has already been rewritten to support this by default, so unless RIPE NCC is using something heavily patched and c

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-20 Thread denis
0 February 2017 at 6:36 AM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian , denis Cc: Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything? Hi Suresh I was replying to a message on the DB-WG and got this response: The message could not be delivered, the mail server at idvmailin04.datev.com [193.27.49.132] said

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
postmaster role all that necessary. --srs From: denis Date: Monday, 20 February 2017 at 6:36 AM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian , denis Cc: Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything? Hi Suresh I was replying to a message on the DB-WG and got this response: The message could n

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-20 Thread denis
Hi Suresh I was replying to a message on the DB-WG and got this response: The message could not be delivered, the mail server at idvmailin04.datev.com [193.27.49.132] said: <<< 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Sender address [ripede...@xs4all.nl] blocked using dbl.webradar.datev.de; gesperrt vom

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 20-Feb-2017, at 2:22 AM, denis wrote: > > It seems like XS4ALL is not able to do anything about being blacklisted. > Obviously the message about handling abuse is not getting through It would help if you posted just what bounce and from where. XS4all has historically been quite proacti

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-20 Thread Oleg Kuznetcov
Hi, Denis, It’s high time you turned the flaws of the current email system (the use of reputation rating) to your advantage and got yourself an email account on a domain that no ISP would risk to block. Best regards, Oleg > On 20 Feb 2017, at 11:22, denis wrote: > > HI > > It seems like XS4

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-20 Thread ox
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:22:26 +0100 denis wrote: > HI > It seems like XS4ALL is not able to do anything about being > blacklisted. Obviously the message about handling abuse is not > getting through We need to also talk about the nature of abuse and as it is a community shortcoming and comple

[anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?

2017-02-20 Thread denis
HI It seems like XS4ALL is not able to do anything about being blacklisted. Obviously the message about handling abuse is not getting through cheers denis co-chair DB-WG Original Message Subject: RE: Feedback Werkingproduct (Email-Id: 6483239) Date: 2017-02-20 09:51 Fro