Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator

On 26 October 2014 22:56, Mikel Artetxe wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Jim O'Regan wrote: >> >> On 26 October 2014 15:05, Mikel Artetxe wrote: >> > 2) Cryptographically sign the bytecode and verify this signature every >> > time >> > that we load it. Probably not too hard to implement

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator

> BTW, I think people with storage problems can move the whole app to SD, > right? > We have android:installLocation="auto" in the manifest: > http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/install-location.html > "If you declare "auto", you indicate that your application may be > installed on the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator

On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Jim O'Regan wrote: > On 26 October 2014 15:05, Mikel Artetxe wrote: > > 2) Cryptographically sign the bytecode and verify this signature every > time > > that we load it. Probably not too hard to implement, but we would have to > > take care of the infrastructure

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GCI task ideas: Lexicalised unigram tagger

A 2014-10-26 22:28, Mikel Forcada escrigué: > Fran, > > [snip] > >> Hmm, I'm not sure if this is the case... e.g. what would happen if >> you have, e.g. >> > "^wound/wound/wind/wound/wound$ >> From your corpus (or fractional counts or something) wound >> wound 100 wound wind 20 wound wound >> 50

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GCI task ideas: Lexicalised unigram tagger

Fran, [snip] Hmm, I'm not sure if this is the case... e.g. what would happen if you have, e.g. "^wound/wound/wind/wound/wound$ From your corpus (or fractional counts or something) woundwound 100 woundwind 20 woundwound 50 woundwound3 And your most frequent a

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GCI task ideas: Lexicalised unigram tagger

A 2014-10-26 19:00, Mikel Forcada escrigué: > Fran, folks, here's the feedback I promised. > > As I said, this is a great idea, particuarly to round off the work by > a constraint grammar, and I think the breakdown in GCI tasks could > work, perhaps excepting the integration in the current tagger.

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator

I think everyone has the 3-5 MB on internal storage needed to install at least one language pair. The discussion is whether we should requre extra permissions to be able to store MANY language pairs. In that light I think 25% is good enough. BTW, I think people with storage problems can move the w

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator

Yaro, you may have wanted to "reply all" so that the rest of the mailing list receives your message. I have quoted it below since I believe you intended your vote to be seen by the list. I have my devices on 4.4.3 and 5.0 in case they can be useful for testing. I'll have my devices in 4.4.4 soon s

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator

I don't think Android 4.4 itself is adopted enough yet. It would result in alienating > 75.5% of users. Maybe in a year that would be a worthwhile compromise when adoption reaches > 60%. -- Sushain Cherivirala www.skc.name On Su

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator

On 26 October 2014 15:05, Mikel Artetxe wrote: > 2) Cryptographically sign the bytecode and verify this signature every time > that we load it. Probably not too hard to implement, but we would have to > take care of the infrastructure involved, which is not trivial (e.g. who > would keep the priva

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GCI task ideas: Lexicalised unigram tagger

A minor update on: "Note that for level (1) one does not really need to store counts. One can simply store the winning lexical form for each surface form." I would never store winning surface forms for unambiguous forms. I would never store winning surface forms where there is no clear win (i

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GCI task ideas: Lexicalised unigram tagger

Fran, folks, here's the feedback I promised. As I said, this is a great idea, particuarly to round off the work by a constraint grammar, and I think the breakdown in GCI tasks could work, perhaps excepting the integration in the current tagger. In a trained corpus we could collect counts in var

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GCI task ideas: Lexicalised unigram tagger

This sounds *very* interesting. I am on mobile now. Will give more detailed feedback in a longer message later tonight. Mikel On 26 d’octubre de 2014 16:07:25 CET, Francis Tyers wrote: >Hey all, > >I had this idea and would be interested in getting feedback. I think it > >could be nicely split

[Apertium-stuff] GCI task ideas: Lexicalised unigram tagger

Hey all, I had this idea and would be interested in getting feedback. I think it could be nicely split into a series of GCI tasks... Idea: Make a mode for the apertium-tagger that performs lexicalised unigram tagging. This would go in the pipeline after a constraint grammar, and resolve remain

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator

Asking for the permission in question sounds very reasonable for me as well, in particular since we are talking about an open source app (paranoid people could always check the source code and compile it by themselves if they don't trust us). My biggest concern has to do with security. The bytecod

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium isnt working on Ubuntu

A 2014-10-26 14:39, Paul Wise escrigué: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Francis Tyers wrote: > >> Unfortunately we have no-one who really knows how it works >> or wants to maintain it > > I had a thought that is semi-related to that. It would be interesting > to push apertium into the free sof

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium isnt working on Ubuntu

On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Francis Tyers wrote: > Unfortunately we have no-one who really knows how it works > or wants to maintain it I had a thought that is semi-related to that. It would be interesting to push apertium into the free software desktop space - GNOME/KDE etc. Being able to r

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium isnt working on Ubuntu

A 2014-10-26 13:52, Paul Wise escrigué: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Xavi Ivars wrote: > >> Fran suggestion was making apertium-tolk depend on a local install of >> APY, >> so it would be doing the translations in your own machine. Exactly. > I see. I think dbus is a better transport than

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium isnt working on Ubuntu

On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Xavi Ivars wrote: > Frank suggestion was making apertium-tolk depend on a local install of APY, > so it would be doing the translations in your own machine. I see. I think dbus is a better transport than http for local translations. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.de

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium isnt working on Ubuntu

2014-10-26 12:59 GMT+01:00 Paul Wise : > On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 5:10 AM, Francis Tyers wrote: > > > The fix is: > > > > 1) Package APY for Debian > > 2) Update apertium-tolk to use APY (at the moment it uses apertium-dbus, > > which should be deprecated.) > > This appears to mean that apertium-to

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator

On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > We are discussing why > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.apertium.android cant > store its big dictionaries on the external SD card. ... > What do you think ? I would suggest including them with the app like apertium does

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator

Writing to the SD card appears to be a very reasonable permission to grant to an application. An explanation of why we need the permissions can be provided in the description. This is a more practical option imo. On 26 Oct, 2014 7:06 pm, "Jacob Nordfalk" wrote: > We are discussing why > https://p

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium isnt working on Ubuntu

On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 5:10 AM, Francis Tyers wrote: > The fix is: > > 1) Package APY for Debian > 2) Update apertium-tolk to use APY (at the moment it uses apertium-dbus, > which should be deprecated.) This appears to mean that apertium-tolk would contact a machine not under my control and ask

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Google Code In 2014

Looking at my familiarity with apertium and how busy I currently am, me being a full mentor is not within reach. That being said, I am certainly available as a secondary mentor to see if people actually understand enough Dutch to do a certain task and talk to them/help them with linguistic stuff/ch

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator

We are discussing why https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.apertium.android cant store its big dictionaries on the external SD card. The issue is permissions: We need extra read/write access permission to SD card to store dictionary files on external storage. I prefer not to require

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Google Code In 2014

Thanks a million, Pim! You forgot to mention that a paper describing the language pair made it to the EAMT 2011 conference, which I co-chaired, and you were the youngest presenter we have ever had at this international conference. And now, a request. If we cooked up GCI tasks to test and impr