Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-30 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/30 Mikel Artetxe > > > In any case, this is just my opinion (and, please, note that my opinion is > not that iOS should have a bigger priority than Android whatsoever, I just > defend that developing for iOS wouldn't be as useless as you said). > Thanks for providing some numbers, to give

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-30 Thread Mikel Artetxe
> >>> Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. >>> >> >> >> As it has been said, the main problem to publish in the app store would >> be the GPL license: Apple doesn't currently allow apps licensed under GPL >> > > >> In any case, I think that working for iOS is still wo

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/28 Mikel Artetxe >> Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. >> > > > As it has been said, the main problem to publish in the app store would be > the GPL license: Apple doesn't currently allow apps licensed under GPL > > In any case, I think that working for

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Mikel Artetxe
> > Just mention that the main problem that I found when working on the iOS > > prototype was the fact that there were several duplicated symbols. For > > instance, each program (ltproc, interchunk, postchunk and so on) has > > logically a main function but, since iOS apps must consist of a single

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Mikel Artetxe
> > If you really really want to make a GUI on this, fine, OK. But I'd >>> expect it to not been usen very often and I'd only spend limited time on >>> it. And as command line script for group 1) I think a makefile/shell script >>> is more adequate. >>> >> >> Now I really understand you and you ha

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 28 March 2012 13:24, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > What!? The App Store usage agreement has improved a little: You may not copy (except as expressly permitted by this license and the Usage Rules), decompile, reverse-engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of, modify, or create deri

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
What!? 2012/3/28 Jimmy O'Regan > On 28 March 2012 11:33, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > > Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. > > > > The short answer is, it can't be. > > The long answer is, it would require every major contributor of every > component that would be di

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 28 March 2012 11:33, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. > The short answer is, it can't be. The long answer is, it would require every major contributor of every component that would be distributed to agree to a set of exceptions to the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/28 Mikel Artetxe > >> If you really really want to make a GUI on this, fine, OK. But I'd >> expect it to not been usen very often and I'd only spend limited time on >> it. And as command line script for group 1) I think a makefile/shell script >> is more adequate. >> > > Now I really unde

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-27 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 27 March 2012 23:27, Mikel Artetxe wrote: > Now I really understand you and you have definitely convinced me. So yes, it > is going to be better to forget about my GUI idea and work on a command line > tool. The utility proposed by Jimmy seems very interesting in that respect. > The only proble

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-27 Thread Mikel Artetxe
> > Lets put people in two rough groups: > > > 1) Apertium core developers. They are each maintaining 2-5 of the 20-30 > language pairs that gets updated once in a while (lets say a release once a > month, on average). They are used to use makefiles and scripts. > > > 2) All opthers. Occational

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-27 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 27 March 2012 11:22, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > 2012/3/27 Mikel Artetxe >>> I'd prefer to avoid modifying JAR files. >>> It's a ZIP file. If people wants several pairs in the same ZIP file they >>> can use ZIP. >> I don't know if I have correctly explained my idea. In fact, this idea of >> the se

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-27 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/27 Mikel Artetxe > >>> Week 7-8: Adapt and extend the previous application so that it can work >>> with several language pairs. This could be achieved by having a JAR per >>> language pair and the main JAR executable that makes use of them or by >>> integrating everything on a single JAR

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-26 Thread Mikel Artetxe
> > OK. This would be my very first draft of the work plan: >> >> Week 1-3: Adapt lttoolbox-java so that it can directly work with embedded >> files without the need of copying them to a temporary directory. >> Week 4: Make an API class that easily allows the translation of an >> embedded language

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-26 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 26 March 2012 13:49, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > 2012/3/25 Mikel Artetxe >>> I think we should leave 'reducing start-up time' for now, as its not >>> neccesarily a task that has anything to do with embedding. Sorry. >> >> >> Well, maybe I can work on it, the only thing that I meant was that right

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-26 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/25 Mikel Artetxe I think we should leave 'reducing start-up time' for now, as its not >> neccesarily a task that has anything to do with embedding. Sorry. >> > > Well, maybe I can work on it, the only thing that I meant was that right > now I wouldn't really know how to accomplish it

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-25 Thread Mikel Artetxe
> > Here's another aspect, which I want to share with you about the loading >>> of resources - as it is inevitably related to how resources are packaged: >>> >>> When translating short sentences the Java port has the disadvantage that >>> it takes about 1/3 of a second to load. >>> >>> This is mai

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-24 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/23 Mikel Artetxe > >> Sure, make an API class. There are some APIs around that it >> should probably try to resemple (C++, webservice, ...). I'm not against it. >> >> An API that allows acces to the intermediary translation stages, like >> Apertium-viewer would need, would be interesting

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-21 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
(cc apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net ) About http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Ideas_for_Google_Summer_of_Code/Make_lttoolbox-java_embeddable 2012/3/20 Mikel Artetxe > Hi, > > I am a 2nd year undergraduate in Computer Science at the University of the > Basque Country that would like to particip

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-19 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/19 Marta Maria Casetti > Hi, > > I had your email from jimregan on the IRC channel; I am writing you > because I am interested in the "Make lttoolbox-java embeddable" task for > the GSoC - but I do not know if what I know is enough (I have never > participated in a project like this). To b