Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-19 Thread Xavi Ivars
2014-08-19 10:44 GMT+02:00 Jacob Nordfalk : > Hey there, > > I agree with Felipe and Francis; > > I could easily and unknowinly have done the same 'little' mistake > as Aboobacker MK, > > I think Jimmy's point if view WRT copyright considerations is in principle > right but he took too severe step

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-19 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
Hey there, I agree with Felipe and Francis; I could easily and unknowinly have done the same 'little' mistake as Aboobacker MK, I think Jimmy's point if view WRT copyright considerations is in principle right but he took too severe steps too fast (Jimmy, please dont be so fast next time, but ple

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-19 Thread Mikel L. Forcada
Thanks What was posted was not a pre-print, but rather the journal-formatted presentation. Mikel 2014-08-18 22:47 GMT+02:00 Flammie Pirinen : > 2014-08-18, Mikel L. Forcada sanoi: > > > I did send the paper by email to those people > > interested. Also, to clarify, the paper is not open access

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Flammie Pirinen
2014-08-18, Mikel L. Forcada sanoi: > I did send the paper by email to those people > interested. Also, to clarify, the paper is not open access because we > could not find a way to get the €3,000 to pay the fee to make it open > access. I know this is a weak excuse but the only existing MT journa

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Jim O'Regan
On 18 August 2014 11:27, Felipe Sánchez Martínez wrote: > Hello all, > > As a member of the PMC I think that Jim should have raised the question to > the PMC rather than taking this action on his own. The people involved > should have had the opportunity to explain their behaviour before being > b

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Francis Tyers
A 2014-08-18 11:06, Mikel L. Forcada escrigué: > Dear Apertiumers: > > I have removed the copy in my temporary website. It was placed there > but I was not aware that Google was crawling that directory (I thought > it was not). > > This is serious, as I am related to the journal (book review edit

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Jim O'Regan
On 18 August 2014 11:00, Mikel L. Forcada wrote: > Jim, I accept your apology, but it's too late. I stand by my decision. > We're in the next phase now. What remains to be seen is whether you > can only renew the president, and leave the rest of the PMC on, but > that probably would be unfair as I

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Felipe Sánchez Martínez
Hello all, As a member of the PMC I think that Jim should have raised the question to the PMC rather than taking this action on his own. The people involved should have had the opportunity to explain their behaviour before being banned. I think this should be the way to go in any case. With re

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Mikel L. Forcada
Jim, I accept your apology, but it's too late. I stand by my decision. We're in the next phase now. What remains to be seen is whether you can only renew the president, and leave the rest of the PMC on, but that probably would be unfair as I would not have the chance to run for PMC member if I want

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Mikel L. Forcada
Thanks Pankaj! I did send the paper by email to those people interested. Also, to clarify, the paper is not open access because we could not find a way to get the €3,000 to pay the fee to make it open access. I know this is a weak excuse but the only existing MT journal requires that. Mikel 201

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Jim O'Regan
On 18 August 2014 10:06, Mikel L. Forcada wrote: > Also, it looks like Jim is going ahead and publicly taking important > decisions on behalf of the PMC without asking the PMC, or not even the > president of the PMC, who, by the way, it is supposed to be me. > > Under these circumstances, namely (

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Mikel L. Forcada
Kevin, Obviously I cannot judge Jim's intentions and I think he meant good. However, everybody (Jim too) knows that http://www.dlsi.ua.es/~mlf/ is me, and this is now public. His unilateral decisions, which in my opinion clearly challenge the power of the PMC are also public. I have been left in a

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Pankaj Kumar Sharma
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Kevin Donnelly wrote: > The "official" link is indeed behind a paywall for me too. But doesn't > even > Springer allow authors to have preprints of their own papers on their own > websites? That is, if you replace the published version by the final > draft, > w

Re: [Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On 18 Aug 2014 11:06:39 Mikel L. Forcada wrote: > I have removed the copy in my temporary website. It was placed there > but I was not aware that Google was crawling that directory (I thought > it was not). The "official" link is indeed behind a paywall for me too. But doesn't even Springer allo

[Apertium-stuff] President resignation, call for extraordinary PMC election (Was: Documents regarding how Apertium work)

2014-08-18 Thread Mikel L. Forcada
Dear Apertiumers: I have removed the copy in my temporary website. It was placed there but I was not aware that Google was crawling that directory (I thought it was not). This is serious, as I am related to the journal (book review editor, member of the editorial board). By (inadvertently) placi