I think I've come up with a solution that is minimally intrusive for
existing work-flows and usages, and that is, allowing optionalising
select tags for generation, i.e.:
Analysing:
echo London | lt-proc eng.automorf.bin
^London/London/London$
(I didn't even plan this it just happened to be
Thank you all for a lively discussion, I'll summarise here and reply to
few of the comments in a typical inline reply format. I think as tldr we
agree to some extent that these rich np annotation tags are specific to
language pairs and steps in the pipeline and should not be hindering
unrelated
Answer below.
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 18:10:42 +0300
> From: Hèctor Alòs i Font
> To: "[apertium-stuff]"
> Reply-To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] Proper noun classification considered harmful
> Pièce(s) jointes(s) probable(s)&
Missatge de Xavi Ivars del dia dc., 3 de febr. 2021
a les 1:10:
> Hèctor, please correct me if I am wrong.
>
> In Catalan, for example, we have gender annotated for proper nouns,
> because as Hèctor explained, it's useful in the some cases when translating
> to French. So Catalan monolingual
Missatge de Kevin Brubeck Unhammer del dia dc., 3 de
febr. 2021 a les 0:40:
> Hèctor Alòs i Font
> čálii:
>
> > I am more sceptical about the need to distinguish between toponyms and
> > hydronyms. In some languages one will have an article and the other will
> > not, but these are rare cases.
Hèctor, please correct me if I am wrong.
In Catalan, for example, we have gender annotated for proper nouns, because
as Hèctor explained, it's useful in the some cases when translating to
French. So Catalan monolingual generates rich tags for np.
However, when translating to Spanish, that
Hèctor Alòs i Font
čálii:
> I am more sceptical about the need to distinguish between toponyms and
> hydronyms. In some languages one will have an article and the other will
> not, but these are rare cases. On the other hand, we do not distinguish
> between countries (or regions) and cities,
Missatge de Kevin Brubeck Unhammer del dia dt., 2 de
febr. 2021 a les 13:35:
> Flammie A Pirinen čálii:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've written a handful of apertium-fin-* prototypes and I usually end up
> > spending way too much time with all the useless subclasses of proper
> > nouns we have
Flammie A Pirinen čálii:
> Hi all,
>
> I've written a handful of apertium-fin-* prototypes and I usually end up
> spending way too much time with all the useless subclasses of proper
> nouns we have (cogs, ants, als, tops, orgs, and to top all that,
> sometimes ms and fs for some extra
Hi all,
I've written a handful of apertium-fin-* prototypes and I usually end up
spending way too much time with all the useless subclasses of proper
nouns we have (cogs, ants, als, tops, orgs, and to top all that,
sometimes ms and fs for some extra (mis)gendering). Could we just get
rid of those
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