Re: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-26 Thread David Kollas
If Ron Prokopy could prevent occurrence of disgusting sooty blotch and flyspeck infections on his Massachusetts-grown apples with "a couple of well-timed fungicides", he certainly had an unusual prescience concerning weather. But that alone could not have made such a minimal pesticide pr

RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-26 Thread evansml
William, I agree with what you said about the diversity of opinions. I was briefly pointing out the other side to Mr. Kuljis. I should say that the extension personnel in Michigan are, for the most part, extremely knowledgeable helpful and much appreciated. Even those that would prefer an orga

Apple-Crop: Obesogens, OPs, Carbon study

2010-07-26 Thread Brian Heatherington
Greetings all. It's 97 outside with a heat index of 107 so peach picking has long since halted for the day. I would like to offer my take on recent topics: OP residues, obesogens, IPM vs. Organic, etc. I wholesale IPM fruit to 2 large organic CSA's in the Atlanta area supplying approximately 4

Re: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-26 Thread Dave Rosenberger
Dan covers a lot of interesting points. However, most of us are still locked into thinking about things as they presently exist in our socio-economic system. Part of this discussion was triggered by Mr. Kuljis's comment about greenhouse gas emissions and the hidden costs of our production sys

RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-26 Thread skip
Quoting ... "I'm no expert on human behavior either, but I still tell my students that a large part of what drives pesticide applications in fruit and vegetables is that people shop with their eyes and lower cognitive functions. I'm convinced that at some level, humans react to blemishes,

Re: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-26 Thread Daniel Cooley
On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Mark Angermayer wrote: Obviously, I'm not a behavioral scientist but I think instead of "educated" in your quote, a better word would be "offered". That is, agriculture has continued to offer more attractive looking food. It seems to me the consumer drives

Apple-Crop: Illinois Fruit and Vegetable News 16:9, June 23, 2010

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Weinzierl
A new issue of the Illinois Fruit and Vegetable News (Volume 16, number 9) has been posted on the web. To reach the home page for the Illinois Fruit and Vegetable News (with links to all issues and additional resources), use the following link: http://www.ipm.uiuc.edu/ifvn/index.html For dir

RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-26 Thread William H Shoemaker
I've found there is a great diversity of viewpoints in most hort departments Mark. If there is a shift, it's because there was a time when the prevailing opinion was that organic was viewed with skepticism. Some faculty still hold that view, while there are others that now view the conventional sid

RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-26 Thread William H Shoemaker
I began my career almost 30 years ago. The kinds of research you suggest had been taking place already for decades. An incredible amount of progress has been made since then in understanding the ecology of agriculture. I think you're wrong about the "scale of effort" being much higher toward chemic

RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-26 Thread evansml
While Robert Kuljis worries about the influence of giant companies, others, including myself, worry about the influence of left-leaning foundations funneling money to university departments (e.g. C.S. Mott Foundation). Further, and perhaps more important, is the political/environmental viewpoint of