Re: [apple-crop] Deer, Fireblight, Liquid Fence

2014-06-10 Thread Mark & Helen Angermayer
I use a product called Bobbex. From a trial which seemed objective, it out-performed other deer repellant products. This product is recommended only for use on non-bearing trees, as it supposedly imparts an off-flavor to the fruit, which was actually a selling point for me. Anything that lasts s

Re: [apple-crop] Deer, Fireblight, Liquid Fence

2014-06-09 Thread Hugh Thomas
I've tried many products and most of the ones mentioned in this thread. Liquid Fence = Ranch Dressing. Dried Blood is deer code for Merlot. Here in Montana, if a deer is hungry, he will eat anything. I finally put in an eight foot high tensile fence. On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:59 AM, wrote: > Le

Re: [apple-crop] Deer, Fireblight, Liquid Fence

2014-06-09 Thread dmnorton
Lee, we use a product called Repells All by Bonide that lasts up to 2 months and is made up of Dried Blood , Putrescent whole egg solids, Garlic oil, Acetic Acid, Potassium Sorbate, Cloves, Fish oil, Onions, Meat meal, Seaweed, Vanillin, Vitamin E, and Wintergreen oil. It comes in a 6 lb. ba

Re: [apple-crop] Deer, Fireblight, Liquid Fence

2014-06-09 Thread Fleming, William
The only deer deterrent I've seen that works long term is a good fence. I don't doubt you that deer can spread blight. I never believed it until it happened to me but fire blight can also be spread from the smoke (or more likely ash) from a burn pile. When a neighbor removed a block of severely b

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-05 Thread TCJMcurl
This is the first year we have used a "flat fence". Our is currently about 50' by 100-110' by 50 '. We used the regular chicken wire 4' wide comes in a roll. We laid it out on a fairly flat area about 2 -3 feet away from the closest tree, strawberry section, sweet corn section and some grapes

RE: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-04 Thread Fleming, William
s, MT 59828 (406)961-3025 From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of John Biele Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:25 AM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: deer Can't resist the question, what is a "ten wire" fence?

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-04 Thread John Biele
n Ag Research Center 580 Quast Ln Corvallis, MT 59828 (406)961-3025 From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop@virtualorchard.net ] On Behalf Of Ed Fackler Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:43 AM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: deer I'd also like to hear more det

RE: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-04 Thread Fleming, William
earch Center 580 Quast Ln Corvallis, MT 59828 (406)961-3025 From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Ed Fackler Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:43 AM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: deer I'd also like to

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-04 Thread Ed Fackler
I'd also like to hear more detail on it. My gut reaction is that while it may well work, controlling or managing weeds could be troublesome especially on highly erodible soils (created by herbicides...). Therefore Mr. (or Ms.) T. Curl, would you please comment further on your "flat fence". Thank

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-04 Thread Bill Shoemaker
Sounds interesting. Could you describe what it is and how you think it works? Bill > I am aware that large orchards and geology of where > they are planted would play into it but has anyone > tried "flat fencing"? We used it this year and it > has kept out deer and raccoons. We used a

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-03 Thread Harold J. Larsen
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: deer -Original Message- From: Fleming, William To: Apple-Crop Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 7:10 pm Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: deer At the risk of being branded by PETA as the Charles Manson of the

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-03 Thread TCJMcurl
riginal Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of rkpeng...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: deer -Original Message- From: Fleming, William To: Apple-Crop Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 7:

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-03 Thread
, Nova Scotia CANADA B0P 1E0 - Original Message - From: "Fleming, William" To: "Apple-Crop" Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: deer In a sense we do treat deer the same as codling moth, if we're smart we fence them out. Spraying f

RE: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-03 Thread Fleming, William
8 (406)961-3025 -Original Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of rkpeng...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: deer -Original Message- From: Fleming, William To: Apple-Crop Sent: Wed, Jul

RE: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-02 Thread Ginda Fisher
. -- gindarkpeng...@aol.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Fleming, William <w...@montana.edu> To: Apple-Crop <apple-crop@virtualorchard.net> Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 7:10 pm Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: deer At the risk of being branded by PETA as the Charles Manson of

RE: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-01 Thread JOHN BELISLE
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 5:11 PM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: deer -Original Message- From: Fleming, William To: Apple-Crop Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 7:10 pm Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: deer At the risk of being branded by PETA as the Charles Manson of the

RE: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-08-01 Thread rkpenguin
-Original Message- From: Fleming, William To: Apple-Crop Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 7:10 pm Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: deer At the risk of being branded by PETA as the Charles Manson of the animal world, why do growers treat deer (a pest of their fruit trees) differently than Codling

RE: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-08 Thread Fleming, William
I was planning on a 10' electric deer fence this fall but if Budweiser would work instead it's on sale right now. Bill Fleming Montana State University Western Ag Research Center Corvallis, MT 59828 -- The 'Apple-Crop'

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-08 Thread Mo Tougas
Mo. Bill I'll be looking for the stout on the 15th Mo. Art Kelly Kelly Orchards Acton, ME - Original Message - From: Mo Tougas To: Apple-Crop Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: deer We have found that Irish Spring works best in combina

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-08 Thread Bill Shoemaker
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: deer > We have found that Irish Spring works best in > combination with dryer sheets, and Guinness Stout. > You need to hang both the sheets and the soap on > the perimeter of the orchard, and plac

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-08 Thread Jill Kelly
I'll be looking for the stout on the 15th Mo. Art Kelly Kelly Orchards Acton, ME - Original Message - From: Mo Tougas To: Apple-Crop Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: deer We have found that Irish Spring works best in combination with

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-07 Thread Mo Tougas
Tougas Tougas Family Farm Northborough,MA 01532 On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:49 PM, jerry sietsema wrote: Howard, how do you make that solution? What rates??? Thanks!!! - Original Message - From: Howard Claussen To: 'Apple-Crop' Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:35 AM Subject: RE:

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-07 Thread jerry sietsema
Howard, how do you make that solution? What rates??? Thanks!!! - Original Message - From: Howard Claussen To: 'Apple-Crop' Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:35 AM Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: deer I have a small (150 tree) family orchard. I spray my trees with a so

RE: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-07 Thread Chris Hedges
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: deer Jim, It didn't work in Michigan in 2008. Several growers in the Hart area tried it to no avail. We have found a low cost (about .75/ft) electric fence system that is working so far this year. It consists of two runs of fence 3' apart. The outer

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-07 Thread dockw
rop' Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:35 am Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: deer I have a small (150 tree) family orchard.  I spray my trees with a solution of Irish Spring soap.  Have not lost a tree in 15 years to deer or rabbits. I also hang each year ¼ bar of soap from each tree so it refreshes

Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-07 Thread BMH
Jim, We tried the mint twists in 2008 as a "switch up" to hanging soap. Although the ties were easy to apply, the treatment didn't work very well. We had noticeably more browsing, damage, and deer activity than normal. For 2009, we went back to hanging soap. The issue may be that the ess

RE: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-07 Thread Dan Digiacomandrea
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Re: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-07 Thread David Rennhack
Jim, It didn't work in Michigan in 2008. Several growers in the Hart area tried it to no avail. We have found a low cost (about .75/ft) electric fence system that is working so far this year. It consists of two runs of fence 3' apart. The outer fence has electric "tape" 18" off the groun

RE: Apple-Crop: deer

2009-07-07 Thread Howard Claussen
I have a small (150 tree) family orchard. I spray my trees with a solution of Irish Spring soap. Have not lost a tree in 15 years to deer or rabbits. I also hang each year ¼ bar of soap from each tree so it refreshes in the rain From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-c...@virtualo