Re: [aqm] [tsvwg] Immediate and Explicit Congestion Notification

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Briscoe
Dave, At 04:22 28/10/2013, Dave Taht wrote: As is probably well known at this point, I make a clear distinction between networking problems in the data center and ones in the wild and wooly world. The two are converging. It will gradually become less sensible to think of the two as separate.

Re: [aqm] [tsvwg] Immediate and Explicit Congestion Notification

2013-10-27 Thread Dave Taht
As is probably well known at this point, I make a clear distinction between networking problems in the data center and ones in the wild and wooly world. The data center portion of the universe is a couple hundred meters in diameter, the other, I dunno, let's say 8x from here to the moon (3,075,200

Re: [aqm] [tsvwg] Immediate and Explicit Congestion Notification

2013-10-27 Thread Bob Briscoe
John, inline... At 12:16 26/10/2013, John Leslie wrote: Bob Briscoe wrote: > > Exec summary > * Early tests show promise that we may have found a way to make the > ultra-low queuing delay of data centre TCP incrementally deployable > on the public Internet > * For rtcweb, we need to address >

Re: [aqm] [tsvwg] Immediate and Explicit Congestion Notification (was: Guidelines for Adding Congestion Notification to Protocols that Encapsulate IP)

2013-10-26 Thread Scheffenegger, Richard
HI John, (aqm chair hat off, and accecn author hat on) >> * For TCP apps, the stack will use 'DCTCP' (we've tweaked it), if the >> ends negotiate ECN with the accurate feedback capability. > >Have we settled on "accurate feedback" already? I thought that was > still under discussion. (I don'

Re: [aqm] [tsvwg] Immediate and Explicit Congestion Notification (was: Guidelines for Adding Congestion Notification to Protocols that Encapsulate IP)

2013-10-26 Thread John Leslie
(If this continues, we've got to fix the title and cross-posting...) Bob Briscoe wrote: > > Exec summary > * Early tests show promise that we may have found a way to make the > ultra-low queuing delay of data centre TCP incrementally deployable > on the public Internet > * For rtcweb, we ne