Re: DOS and the future (and why I use DOS :-) )

2000-09-05 Thread Bernie
Ron wrote: > Unfortunately, I suspect that we SHALL need these soon. I'v ehad >several CD-roms through lately from chip manufacturers. When I try to >look at the files, XT tells me that the directories are all EMPTY!!! I >fear that this might be something to do with new LFN or FATs??? > > Dunn

Excellent text editor for DOS and Linux : SETEDIT

2000-09-05 Thread Dev Teelucksingh
For DOS users, using Linux text editors such as vi and emacs are very different from the text editors available for DOS. There is one exception and is the first application I install whereever I install Linux : SET's editor v0.4.41, a free editor released under the GNU license (so source code

Pedit v4.0 - a better edit than MS Edit

2000-09-05 Thread Dev Teelucksingh
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Or Botton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Even though the last time I actually used MS-DOS since I switched > to DR-DOS (and then PC-DOS) was around 1997, I still keep a copy > of Edit. Yep, I use the MS-DOS 6.22 Edit. Its actually one of the > better programs I saw so far. I'm

Re: DOS and the future - writing CD-ROMs

2000-09-05 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:23:44 +, "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whilst I'm at it, does the ZIP drive run on pure DOS, too? Yes, it certainly does. A DOS driver is provided with the supplied software for the IOMEGA ZIP DRIVE. It will run with DOS version 3.31 and higher. Clarence V

Re: Linux editors

2000-09-05 Thread ichi
Clarence Verge wrote: > > is there any way to do the inter-user pasting without a mouse ? Not that I know of. It should be possible to modify the gpm daemon to access the keyboard instead of the mouse, but I've never seen this anywhere. > If I'm at the CLI I don't want to have a mouse clut

Re: DOS and the future - writing CD-ROMs

2000-09-05 Thread Glenn McCorkle
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:23:44 +, "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Listers, > Whilst this very interesting thread is active, perhaps I can > ask whether anyone has found a CD-ROM writer that runs under DOS. I've > seen lots of drives for sale and they all seem to say the dreaded wo

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Clarence Verge
Glenn McCorkle wrote: > > OK folks, > I guess we could all use a refresher coarse. ;-) > (this is the exact original message renamed from .mes to .txt) > http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/memory.txt > > ---(clipped from the original message headers)--- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That was

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Glenn McCorkle
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:07:49 -0400, Roger Turk wrote: > Clarence Verge wrote: >>> Or Botton wrote: >> What do NT and Linux do to skip over the 640k limitation in Intel >> hardware? > I have no idea what NT might do, but I'll bet Linux re-maps the memory. > - - Clarence Verge<< > From what I

aliases

2000-09-05 Thread Hristo Iliev
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Bernie wrote: > I currently have "ls -la --color" and at times add "-rc" (making it almost > like dir/od). I alias lsa="ls -a --color" and ll="ls -al --color" in my .bashrc file and think this is very useful ... and I always type these command even when they doesn't work ;

Re: DOS and the future - writing CD-ROMs

2000-09-05 Thread Clarence Verge
Edenyard wrote: > >Whilst I'm at it, does the ZIP drive run on pure DOS, too? I can't help with the CD writer, but my Syquest zip drive (EZ135) sees only DOS. - Clarence Verge -- - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ --

Re: Why is this web page so W - I - D - E ?

2000-09-05 Thread Clarence Verge
Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > > Hello: > > Does anyone know why this page is seen so W - I - D - E as displayed > by Arachne?: > > http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/index.html > > Just a poorly designed page, or something wrong with the way Arachne > renders it? Does it look OK when s

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Clarence Verge
Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > > How did you partition your removable media? Can you use FDISK? Hi Sam; I replied to this last night but had forgotten I had unsubscribed the address I posted from. I used SYQSHELL.exe which came with the Syquest drive and offers various options for formatting and

Re: Linux editors

2000-09-05 Thread Clarence Verge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thomas Mueller wrote: > > > and handle two or more at a time? > > Any Linux editor can do this by running a second version > of the editor (ALT-Fx). Even in the CLI, you can paste > between them using the mouse. I had explored a bit that multi-tasking aspect of Li

New browser

2000-09-05 Thread ichi
This story has just gone up on http://linuxtoday.com - The ViewML Project has produced a high-quality Web browser in a short time, directly targeting the embedded Linux environment. By including open-source core components we've been

CMOS-crash from syntax error

2000-09-05 Thread ichi
Joerg Bartels wrote: > > I wonder that such a mistake in the syntax causes > that bad CMOS-crash. Linux has some very powerful commands (dd is one), and small syntax errors can produce spectacular results. You need to be very careful with your syntax, particularly when you are 'root'. Chee

DOS and the future - writing CD-ROMs

2000-09-05 Thread Richard Menedetter
Hi "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: E>Whilst this very interesting thread is active, perhaps I can E> ask whether anyone has found a CD-ROM writer that runs under DOS. Every cd-r works in DOS, when you have a program which can use it. (no driver needed) The problem is that I don't kn

Linux editors

2000-09-05 Thread ichi
Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I have a little experience with Pico, features are > rather limited, Pico is designed as basic editor, suitable for newbies. The limited feature set makes it easy to learn. > How big a file can Pico handle? Unlimited. > I am not familiar with ae and ee. Also bas

Re: Re: Steven: CMOS-crash with BASICLinux!

2000-09-05 Thread Joerg Bartels
At 05.09.2000 08:54:00, you wrote: >Thanks for your message. > >> I tryed to make a bootdisk for a Corel-Linux >> installation under BASICLinux >> dd if=cdrom/Corel/Boot/boot1440.img of=dev/fd0 > >You've left out the / in /cdrom and /dev. > >> snip > >BTW, is there any particular reason why you

Re: Linux

2000-09-05 Thread capslock2000
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 06:49:28PM +0200, Bernie wrote: > Casper wrote: > >But it is in the filename, the full filename that is. > >It's not ls, it's really /bin/ls , it's in /bin so it is executable. > >That is one of the benefits of the "weird" directory structure. > > Ok, what about ~/arachne-

DOS and the future - writing CD-ROMs

2000-09-05 Thread Edenyard
Dear Listers, Whilst this very interesting thread is active, perhaps I can ask whether anyone has found a CD-ROM writer that runs under DOS. I've seen lots of drives for sale and they all seem to say the dreaded words 'Minimum requirements of 'Doze ninety-something and a CPU running at gigaher

Re: TLA

2000-09-05 Thread Edenyard
On Sun, 03 Sep 2000 23:36:28 -0500 Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > I visited the page. Very interesting and nicely done. Do you have plans > to add additional pages for acronyms of more than three letters? > I think you mean MTTLAs, Sam! Ron. -- Arachne V1.66, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http:/

DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Richard Menedetter
Hi "Florian Xaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FX> There is a 32-BIT DOS: FX> Dr-DOS, with its memory manager it is a 32-BIT. IMHO not ... it's a 16 bit DOS with a 32 bit memory manager. There is no 32 bit API provided ?? (or is there) IMHO it switches back to realmode to access IO/ DOS API fu

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Florian Xaver
Hi! >>1)So what's preventing people from making a DOS that will initially >> run in protected mode? (besides the 286- support.) >> >>2)And what about the programs that use "protected mode extenders"? > >Ok, lets assume we'll make a new 32-bit DOS: > >1. We create a 32-bit DOS >2. We create a 16-

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Joerg Dietze
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:42:44 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > EDIT.COM first appeared with DOS 5.00, and it was included also with > the more advanced versions. In DOS 5.00 you need QBASIC, also included, > in order for EDIT.COM to work. I don't know if QBASIC is required for > the more advan

Re: Linux

2000-09-05 Thread Bernie
Casper wrote: >But it is in the filename, the full filename that is. >It's not ls, it's really /bin/ls , it's in /bin so it is executable. >That is one of the benefits of the "weird" directory structure. Ok, what about ~/arachne-1.66b/arachne (ok, this might not be the correct path since I haven'

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Bernie
Or wrote: >1)So what's preventing people from making a DOS that will initially > run in protected mode? (besides the 286- support.) > >2)And what about the programs that use "protected mode extenders"? Ok, lets assume we'll make a new 32-bit DOS: 1. We create a 32-bit DOS 2. We create a 16-bit

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:09:17 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Mueller wrote: >> For me, PICO was harder to use then Edit. I guess that this is >> a matter of taste. :) >> Or Botton >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Which Edit is this, MS-DOS or so

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Ben Hood
On 5 Sep 2000, at 10:30, Or Botton wrote: > I still keep a copy > of Edit. Yep, I use the MS-DOS 6.22 Edit. > > (when I need to edit multiple files, I use the Windows 95 version > of Edit. Which is even better, suprisingly!) Why don't you keep the W95 one going? That way you don't have to keep

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Ben Hood
On 5 Sep 2000, at 9:45, Joerg Dietze wrote: > AFAIK, You'll have linear memory, if You switch at least to protected > mode, which is available with 286 or better. But Protected Mode on the 286 is not very good.You can't switch back to Real Mode without a reboot... The 386 was Intel's first mo

DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Richard Menedetter
Hi "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Some Linux text editors are easy to use. Pico, ae, >> and ee are examples. And there are also Wordstar clones >> (for those who find Wordstar easy). TM> I have a little experience with Pico, features are rather limited, it is only one edit

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Florian Xaver
Sorry, it was another program. Sorry!! so long, florian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Or Botton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: Dienstag, 05. September 2000 11:51 Betreff: Re: DOS and the future >Florian Xaver wrote: >> Did you read the copyright?

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Florian Xaver
Hi! > >> They use the protected mode. (memory limited to 4 GB afaik) > >> The only processor with a 640 K limit is the intel 8086 and 8088. > > >> All other processors can additionally to their real operating mode > >> (protected) emulate the 8086 with its memory limit (real mode) > > OB> Which b

Re: Steven: CMOS-crash with BASICLinux!

2000-09-05 Thread capslock2000
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:45:32AM +0800, Joerg Bartels wrote: > Hey Steven, > I tryed to make a bootdisk for a Corel-Linux installation under BASICLinux > dd if=cdrom/Corel/Boot/boot1440.img of=dev/fd0 with cdromdrive mounted ^^ |

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Or Botton
Richard Menedetter wrote: > That DOS would not be DOS but OS/2, Linux, NT or any other Protected mode > OS :) It will still be DOS for me. (explanation can be found in earlier rant). > A Protected mode DOS (can this exist ??) would not be compatible with real > mode DOS! So this could be the pr

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Or Botton
Florian Xaver wrote: > Did you read the copyright? It isn't developed from Microsoft :-))) Edit - MS-DOS 6.22: Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation, 1987-1992. Edit - MS-DOS 7: Copyright (c) Microsoft Corp 1995. Looks like an MS product. Couldnt find any other company in the help text.. where di

Re: DOS and the future (and why I use DOS :-) )

2000-09-05 Thread capslock2000
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 10:25:42PM +0300, Or Botton wrote: > > hm... how about an internal hardware based PC emulator? :) Isn't that what the Crusoe processor from Transmeta is all about? -- Casper Gielen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It was a user's "club", ... in the sense

DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Richard Menedetter
Hi "Or Botton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> They use the protected mode. (memory limited to 4 GB afaik) >> The only processor with a 640 K limit is the intel 8086 and 8088. >> All other processors can additionally to their real operating mode >> (protected) emulate the 8086 with its memory

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Florian Xaver
>Even though the last time I actually used MS-DOS since I switched >to DR-DOS (and then PC-DOS) was around 1997, I still keep a copy >of Edit. Yep, I use the MS-DOS 6.22 Edit. Its actually one of the >better programs I saw so far. I'm still amazed that something like >this actually came out from M

Re: DOS and the future (and why I use DOS :-) )

2000-09-05 Thread Edenyard
On Sat, 02 Sep 2000 15:11:10 -0500, Clarence Verge wrote: > I would like to say right here that *I* am quite happy with the current > (and past) state of DOS. Personally, I don't WANT filename completion, > and if I ever came across it I would want to turn it off. > Well said, Clarence! > >

CMOS-crash with BASICLinux

2000-09-05 Thread Neil Smith
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:45:32 +0800 Joerg Bartels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Subject: Steven: CMOS-crash with BASICLinux! >I tryed to make a bootdisk for a Corel-Linux installation under BASICLinux >dd if=cdrom/Corel/Boot/boot1440.img of=dev/fd0 with cdromdrive mounted >to cdrom and fd0 mounted to

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Joerg Dietze
Hi folks, AFAIK, You'll have linear memory, if You switch at least to protected mode, which is available with 286 or better. Regards Joerg > I have no idea what NT might do, but I'll bet Linux re-maps the memory. > - Clarence Verge -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate I

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Or Botton
Thomas Mueller wrote: > Which Edit is this, MS-DOS or something more advanced? Even though the last time I actually used MS-DOS since I switched to DR-DOS (and then PC-DOS) was around 1997, I still keep a copy of Edit. Yep, I use the MS-DOS 6.22 Edit. Its actually one of the better programs I saw

Re: DOS and the future

2000-09-05 Thread Thomas Mueller
On Mon, 04 Sep 2000 09:19:35 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Some Linux text editors are easy to use. Pico, ae, > and ee are examples. And there are also Wordstar clones > (for those who find Wordstar easy). I have a little experience with Pico, features are rather limited, nothing approachi