Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-12 Thread Kevin JCJD Symons
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:21:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonsoir Bob!!! >> But surely communism is as equally a "pure" system? I may not agree >> with it, but it is the antithesis of democracy, and in its pure form, > equal. > So, Kevin ... > can I assume that you'll be attending the 1

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-12 Thread bobdohse
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 "Kevin JCJD Symons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 , Sam Ewalt wrote: > > > But, in my humble opinion the world is not yet ready to abolish > > government. The only hope for the world is democracy--a fair and > > just self government. > > But surely communi

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-09 Thread Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ
On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 23:00:37 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:54:29 +1000, Ron Clarke wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:31:41 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: >>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:29:38 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: Most likely... The world-as-we-kno

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-08 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:54:29 +1000, Ron Clarke wrote: > Hi Folks, > On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:31:41 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: >> On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:29:38 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >>> Most likely... >>> The world-as-we-know-it would come to a screaching halt. ;-) >> I doubt it. Voting in F

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-08 Thread Ron Clarke
Hi Folks, On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:31:41 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:29:38 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> Most likely... >> The world-as-we-know-it would come to a screaching halt. ;-) > I doubt it. Voting in Fed and State elections is compulsory in > Australia, and I susp

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-08 Thread Binky
On Monday, July 7, 2003 at 09:52:59 -0500, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, but in the good ol' USA there is a big difference. > In the good ol' USA all government spending, to include > also all the wasteful government spending, is approved > of by the people themselves. In

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-08 Thread david gunnells
Hello, The 80% not getting "off their butts" includes: ~17,000,000 non-citizen adults (~6% of total population) ~19,000,000 registered, non-voting adults (~7%) ~56,000,000 citizen adults not registered to vote (~20%) ~78,800,000 children (~28%) Leaving us with: ~110,800,000 voting adults (~39%)

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Greg Mayman
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:29:38 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > Most likely... > The world-as-we-know-it would come to a screaching halt. ;-) I doubt it. Voting in Fed and State elections is compulsory in Australia, and I suspect we are the better for it Greg -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL c

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Glenn McCorkle
On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:16:31 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 05:44:26 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: >> No, we need responsible government--a rule of law that respects the >> rights of individuals to be safe and secure in their persons, homes >> and families and lets them pursue happin

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Glenn McCorkle
On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:42:07 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:44:45 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> As has already been illustrated... elected by only 20% of us. :((( >> Therefore, at-best 20% of the population are getting what they want. > Not even that. They are getting

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Greg Mayman
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:44:45 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > As has already been illustrated... elected by only 20% of us. :((( > Therefore, at-best 20% of the population are getting what they want. Not even that. They are getting what their elected representative decides HE wants after he i

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Greg Mayman
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 09:52:59 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > In the good ol' USA all government spending, to include also all the > wasteful government spending, is approved of by the people themselves. They came and asked YOU whether to spend the money on schools, on weapons, or on "fact findi

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Greg Mayman
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 05:44:26 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > Thank you, Glenn. "Imagine" is a wonderful, important song. Peace will > be found first in our own hearts. Very true. > But, in my humble opinion the world is not yet ready to abolish > government. The only hope for the world is democracy--a

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Glenn McCorkle
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:10:49 -0700, Rick Orr wrote: >> As has already been illustrated... elected by only 20% of us. :((( >> Therefore, at-best 20% of the population are getting what they want. >> The remaining 80% are in-fact being dictated to. > I wonder what would happen if that 80% got

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Rick Orr
As has already been illustrated... elected by only 20% of us. :((( Therefore, at-best 20% of the population are getting what they want. The remaining 80% are in-fact being dictated to. I wonder what would happen if that 80% got off their butts & stood up to be counted? :-) later,

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Glenn McCorkle
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 09:52:59 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 00:17:49 -0700 (PDT), Binky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sunday, July 6, 2003 at 05:58:31 -0500, >> "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Whenever a country devotes its wealth and resources to

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 00:17:49 -0700 (PDT), Binky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday, July 6, 2003 at 05:58:31 -0500, > "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Whenever a country devotes its wealth and resources to building >> up its military might to a level far exceeding what is

Re: (delete now if not interested in my opinions) Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:28:01 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 05:58:31 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> Note that I had used the word within quotations so as to indicate >> that the "facts" might not have really been proven as such. > But to many people the use of "quotes" is on

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Kevin JCJD Symons
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 05:44:26 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: >> To me, >> Anarchy == the 100% abolition of all forms of government everywhere. >> Please read (and try to understand).. >> http://www.merseyworld.com/imagine/lyrics/imagine.htm > Thank you, Glenn. "Imagine" is a wonderful, important son

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Sam Ewalt
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 17:19:21 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > I am in 100% agreement with that piont of view. :) > This is one of the many reasons why I advocate. Anarchy. > To me, > Anarchy == the 100% abolition of all forms of government everywhere. > Please read (and try to understand)

Re: (delete now if not interested in my opinions) Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Greg Mayman
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 05:58:31 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Note that I had used the word within quotations so as to indicate > that the "facts" might not have really been proven as such. But to many people the use of "quotes" is only another method of "emphasizing" a word or a statement, if y

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-07 Thread Binky
On Sunday, July 6, 2003 at 05:58:31 -0500, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whenever a country devotes its wealth and resources to building > up its military might to a level far exceeding what is reasonable > and necessary for providing for the country's defense and security,

Re: (delete now if not interested in my opinions) Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-06 Thread Glenn McCorkle
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 05:58:31 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> "FACTS" are pieces of information which have been PROVEN to be TRUE. > If by definition all "FACTS" are statements that have been PROVEN to be > TRUE, then why do we always hear so many politicians and news analysts > using the phr

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-06 Thread Glenn McCorkle
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 12:24:11 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > All governments tell many lies. Bad governments tell lies about good > governments and good governments retalliate by telling lies about bad > governments. Please define, Bad government: , Good government: ;-) > If the truth wer

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-06 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 20:17:23 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote: > To launch a war on a nation is a very serious matter and the evidence > should be solid, very solid. > The evidence for weapons of mass destruction has been very soft and it > still is. To present it to the American people (and t

Re: (delete now if not interested in my opinions) Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-06 Thread Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 18:06:37 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:00:10 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 13:30:28 +0200, Richard Menedetter wrote: >> Most people who know anything at all >> about the value of military intelligence know that the "facts" ar

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-06 Thread Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ
To launch a war on a nation is a very serious matter and the evidence should be solid, very solid. The evidence for weapons of mass destruction has been very soft and it still is. To present it to the American people (and the world) as hard core evidence is a lie. Making it an urgent matter, THAT

Re: (delete now if not interested in my opinions) Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-06 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 18:06:37 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:00:10 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 13:30:28 +0200, Richard Menedetter wrote: >>> Hi >>> Go to http://www.google.com >>> enter weapons of mass destruction into the searchfield >>> and pre

(delete now if not interested in my opinions) Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-05 Thread Glenn McCorkle
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:00:10 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 13:30:28 +0200, Richard Menedetter wrote: >> Hi >> Go to http://www.google.com >> enter weapons of mass destruction into the searchfield >> and press the I'm feeling lucky button. >> read and start to think. >>

Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-05 Thread Samuel W. Heywood
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 13:30:28 +0200, Richard Menedetter wrote: > Hi > Go to http://www.google.com > enter weapons of mass destruction into the searchfield > and press the I'm feeling lucky button. > read and start to think. > Naturally this 404 - not found page is meant only as a joke. > But it

OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

2003-07-05 Thread Richard Menedetter
Hi Go to http://www.google.com enter weapons of mass destruction into the searchfield and press the I'm feeling lucky button. read and start to think. Naturally this 404 - not found page is meant only as a joke. But it really gives me the creep, if a elected (??) leader of a democratic country c