Thanks to Steve & Steven for all that info on X. I'm going to print
it all out, then study and try it after work. I may be gone some
time
Gerald.
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:35:30 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> Anyway, try this.
> 1) printscreen
> 2) start W3.1 paint program
> 3) edit/paste
> 4) file/saveas filename.bmp
> The resulting BMP file will be viewable with any graphics program.
Thanks Glenn;
I was able to get the clip converted to
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:25:56 -0500, Clarence Verge wrote:
> Ron Clarke wrote:
>> Hi Folks, Clarence,
>> Clarence Verge wrote:
>> > Someone is gonna love THIS.
>> > The files the clipbooard saves have an internal identifier "Bitmap" -
>> > fully spelled out - and they are in no .BMP format *I'v
Hi Folks, Clarence,
Clarence Verge wrote:
>> > Someone is gonna love THIS.
>> > The files the clipbooard saves have an internal identifier "Bitmap" -
>> > fully spelled out - and they are in no .BMP format *I've* ever seen. :(
I wrote:
>> That may well be so, but they are still usable. Just
Ron Clarke wrote:
>
> Hi Folks, Clarence,
>
> Clarence Verge wrote:
> > Someone is gonna love THIS.
> > The files the clipbooard saves have an internal identifier "Bitmap" -
> > fully spelled out - and they are in no .BMP format *I've* ever seen. :(
>
> That may well be so, but they are stil
Hi Folks, Clarence,
Clarence Verge wrote:
> Someone is gonna love THIS.
> The files the clipbooard saves have an internal identifier "Bitmap" -
> fully spelled out - and they are in no .BMP format *I've* ever seen. :(
That may well be so, but they are still usable. Just open a Win3.1
graphi
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:32:27 -0400, I wrote:
> I've just learned you can hit Printscreen in W3.1
> and it transfers a .BMP to the clipboard. I tried it a few hours ago
> and sure enuf there was an image on the clipboard, but when I sent
> it to Arachne she couldn't recognize it. (VGA monochrome ?
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:55:32 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:30:00 -0400, Clarence Verge wrote:
>> Hi Glenn;
>> I was going to do that but didn't know how to take a W3.1 screenshot.
>> Thanks a lot, but could you re-do it ? - it seems to be corrupted :(
> OOPS! :(
> OK,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:37:44 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I wonder how much
> > difference there is between the look of Win3.11 NS3.x
> > and Win95 NS3.x.
>
> Does this answer your question?
> http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoo
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:30:00 -0400, Clarence Verge wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:08:38 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:37:44 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I wonder how much
>>> difference there is between the look of Win3.11 NS3.x
>>> and Win95 NS3.x.
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:08:38 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:37:44 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I wonder how much
>> difference there is between the look of Win3.11 NS3.x
>> and Win95 NS3.x.
> Does this answer your question?
> http://www.angelfire.com/i
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:37:44 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The NS in the first shot has no title bar. The second
> shot has an overly busy title bar, with 7, yes, count 'em,
> SEVEN function buttons.
> Yes, Linux Netscape 3.04 does have some cosmetic
> differences from the Windo
Edenyard wrote:
>
> When I type 'startx', I get something that I now
> know is called a window manager.
This is because your xinit is configured to start
a window manager.
> how do you 'startx' without starting a WM with it?
Is there an .xinitrc file in your home directory?
If so, it contai
Clarence Verge wrote:
>As suspected, I could not run X without a window manager.
>I couldn't even remember how I changed WMs in the past. :
The simplest way to run X without a WM.:
==
Move the files whose name resemble .Xclients (hidden files) in your home
director
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Clarence Verge wrote:
> Actually it is the desktop that has the title bar isn't it ?
No, each window has a title bar... in every wm I've
seen except 9wm. It's the title bar which contains
the buttons to minimize, kill, roll-up, or whatever.
> > The one place this isn't t
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Edenyard wrote:
>When I type 'startx', I get something that I now know is called a
> window manager.
Yes.
> Yet I seem to understand from the messages on this
> thread that you don't HAVE to have a WM running with X -
Correct.
> X could run
> e.g. Netscape on it
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Clarence Verge wrote:
> As suspected, I could not run X without a window manager.
I can't help you with that one. I've never done it
either. I'm pretty sure Steven has though.
> I couldn't even remember how I changed WMs in the past. :
Some wm's have clicky-thingi
I must say I'm enjoying these Linux discussions immensely - and
learning a lot at the same time. Having been following this particular
thread, though, I find there's a large hole in my understanding
somewhere.
When I type 'startx', I get something that I now know is called a
window manager.
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:37:44 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Clarence Verge wrote:
>> Um. They both look the same to me - and NEITHER resembles NS3.04
>> on W3.11 in any way. Are you sure those are the correct shots ?
> The NS in the first shot has no title ba
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Cristian Burneci wrote:
> Desktop managers are a conglomerate of applications and libraries. They
> tend to set some kind of standards. They offer a widget library, a
> window manager, some sort of other libraries which offer various
> solutions i.e. for multimedia issues, an
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Clarence Verge wrote:
> > Here's a screenshot of Netscape 3.04 taken from
> > 9wm, which has no title bars or title bar buttons.
> > http://wizard.dyndns.org/9wm_ns3.png
> > This is the same way it would appear without any
> > wm at all, so you can see, it's the wm which contr
On Sun, 09 Sep 2001 15:38:17 -0400, Clarence Verge wrote:
> Now to see what X has for me today. ;-)
Well, it took a while. (about an hour)
As suspected, I could not run X without a window manager.
I couldn't even remember how I changed WMs in the past. :
There seemed to be no way to get ou
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:31:19 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> X itself can control many functions. Next time you
> have X up, put your cursor over an xterm. Now, hit
> CTRL-left-click, CTRL-right-click, CTRL-middle-click.
> These options are available to any xterm or xterm-based
>
Clarence Verge wrote:
>Now comes the chance for you to explain why four layers seem to be
>involved in the graphical system and what is responsible for what.
This is how I see the things and someone correct me if I am wrong:
The X server actions can be roughly explained by the following.
X ma
On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Clarence Verge wrote:
> The bottom-most level is the video driver - part of SVGAlib or some
> other. It is the hardware-specific interface.
>
> Next is "X". What it does is beyond me right now. :-( Xconfig allows
> you to select the proper video driver and the resolution(s)
Clarence Verge wrote:
>
> The window manager seems to be most important in
> the user interface arena, controlling the general
> appearance of your screen and providing menus and
> application launching.
You will probably be surprised to hear that the wm
is actually the least important compo
On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 00:03:45 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Clarence Verge wrote:
>> Would your binary run on my RH5.1or2 system ?
> Probably. But the one at the link above certainly
> will run on your 5.x system.
>> Or does it have YOUR
>> video driver(s)
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