Re: [arch] hotplugging, hotplug, hwdetect etc.

2005-11-21 Thread Michael Karlsson
Hi! Yes it is confusing, but I remember that when I was a gentoo-geek they used a program/script called coldplug for loading modules and such and hotplug was what you just said, I guess they "changed" the name of the daemon to stop the confusion... don't know if that is hard to do? becuase th

Re: [arch] hotplugging, hotplug, hwdetect etc.

2005-11-21 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Hi yes it's a bit confusing, the "hotplug" daemon does only coldplugging, which means it loads modules for things it thinks it's there, nothing more. hotplug daemon is a bunch of script that are executed and not a real daemon at all. hwdetect does the same but is faster and far more precise in d

Re: [arch] hotplugging, hotplug, hwdetect etc.

2005-11-21 Thread Thomas Bächler
Scott Weisman schrieb: > Does this mean I can now do "pacman -R hotplug"? It doesn't look like > it, because it is still used to process hotplug events, even if the > hotplug daemon is not run on startup. > > Does the hotplug daemon only run at startup then exit? > > How are hotplug events proces

Re: [arch] hotplugging, hotplug, hwdetect etc.

2005-11-21 Thread Damir Perisa
Le Tuesday 22 November 2005 01:19, Aaron Griffin a écrit : | On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 12:51:50AM +0100, Damir Perisa wrote: | > may i ask you and all people who learn this things to start working | > on archwiki pages (wiki.archlinux.org) | | Hah, for this topic, I'm one step ahead of you: |  

Re: [arch] hotplugging, hotplug, hwdetect etc.

2005-11-21 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 12:51:50AM +0100, Damir Perisa wrote: > may i ask you and all people who learn this things to start working on > archwiki pages (wiki.archlinux.org) Hah, for this topic, I'm one step ahead of you: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HotPlug - phrak __

Re: [arch] hotplugging, hotplug, hwdetect etc.

2005-11-21 Thread Damir Perisa
Hi Scott W., i'm happy that you bring up this questions. i cannot provide detailed answers, because my knowledge on this subject is not that good to reason and argue on it with confidence, but i hope that you will get competent answers from others. Le Tuesday 22 November 2005 00:27, Scott Weis

Re: [arch] hotplugging, hotplug, hwdetect etc.

2005-11-21 Thread James Rayner
On 11/22/05, Scott Weisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > I've been reading about the ongoing development of hotplug > alternatives with interest, but I am confused. > > I see that it is possible, and now it seems even preferable, to remove > hotplug from the DAEMONS line in rc.conf. D

[arch] hotplugging, hotplug, hwdetect etc.

2005-11-21 Thread Scott Weisman
Hi there, I've been reading about the ongoing development of hotplug alternatives with interest, but I am confused. I see that it is possible, and now it seems even preferable, to remove hotplug from the DAEMONS line in rc.conf. Does this mean I can now do "pacman -R hotplug"? It doesn't look li

Re: [arch] archie cvs - oops

2005-11-21 Thread Joe Giles
On Monday 21 November 2005 14:17, z4ziggy wrote: > oops... previous mail was a private message to dibble... well, im guessing > its not private anymore ;) > > you may ignore it. PLEASE... OOohhh.. Now you have done it. The cats out of the bag... You forgot how to commit sources back to the cvs.

[arch] archie cvs - oops

2005-11-21 Thread z4ziggy
oops... previous mail was a private message to dibble... well, im guessing its not private anymore ;) you may ignore it. PLEASE... -- regards, Elia Yehuda, aka z4ziggy Archie project, http://archie.dotsrc.org ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org

[arch] archie cvs

2005-11-21 Thread z4ziggy
heya man, i finished recoding mkliveiso and its now modular as i wanted it to be. i also added --verbose (default is quiet mode) and fixed some minor issues regarding the code structure. i shamefully admit i dont remember how to commit sources back to the cvs with approp message (for the change

Re: [arch] Clarification on How the Rolling Release System Works

2005-11-21 Thread Essien Ita Essien
Your description is basically what i do. I have like 3 machines that basically do NAT and transparent proxying (ala SQUID) on three client networks. I ignorepkg = iptables, squid, kernel26 on all three of them. Since my laptop also runz Arch, i always upgrade my laptop first... and find out if

Re: [arch] Clarification on How the Rolling Release System Works

2005-11-21 Thread Doug Jolley
Thanks again for all the thoughts.  It occurs to me that one never really *HAS* to update.  There's no-one holding a gun to your head.  So, I'm thinking that maybe *A* way to proceed is to maintain a test server that has all of the packages installed that we would normally install on a production s

Re: [arch] Initscripts update

2005-11-21 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Hi I gave you the answer already: MODULES= is now only needed for modules that are not detected by hwdetect. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp8fwqo6RHv6.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [arch] Initscripts update

2005-11-21 Thread Thomas Bächler
Rosenstrauch, David schrieb: > What does this mean for the MODULES section in the rc.conf, Tobias? If we're > going to use autoload, should we comment out MODULES? You probably still want to load some modules that hwdetect cannot "guess" for you. For example (this is for my custom kernel, some o

Re: [arch] Initscripts update

2005-11-21 Thread Rosenstrauch, David
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Tobias Powalowski > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:09 AM > To: arch@archlinux.org > Subject: [arch] Initscripts update > > Hi, > finally i think hwdetect comes to final stage :) > it does now module o

Re: [arch] D-Link DFE530TX doesn't work.

2005-11-21 Thread Mikkel Poulsen
2005/11/21, j l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > --- Mikkel Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Reasently I have been up to *BSD, and I find it vere > > interesting. > > Though I have this problem that I am using my > > onboard card for Arch. > > *BSD don't like it, and Arch doesn't like

Re: [arch] Clarification on How the Rolling Release System Works

2005-11-21 Thread Magnus Therning
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 01:23:42PM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: >Magnus Therning schrieb: >>>Our release structure isn't like that at all. We just take a snapshot >>>of the state of current and that's a release. The rolling part means >>>that the difference between releases is all the updates we'

[arch] Initscripts update

2005-11-21 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Hi, finally i think hwdetect comes to final stage :) it does now module ordering with priority to internal devices, this is important for network or scsi. added a load_modules=off option to rc.sysinit, that means if you run into trouble with module loading just add this option to your boot prompt