Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-09-06 Thread Eric Belanger
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote: Some followups here. tpowa went ahead and handled a few of the changes I was discussing here, but there are a few more before I push this to testing. Firstly: On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Damjan Georgievski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And,

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-09-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Eric Belanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: start_udev is still there because people

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-09-06 Thread Eric Belanger
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Eric Belanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-09-04 Thread Thomas Bächler
Aaron Griffin schrieb: Some followups here. tpowa went ahead and handled a few of the changes I was discussing here, but there are a few more before I push this to testing. I hope I can make the changes to load-modules.sh soon to make blacklisting work in a reasonable way. See

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-09-04 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Thomas Bächler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Griffin schrieb: Some followups here. tpowa went ahead and handled a few of the changes I was discussing here, but there are a few more before I push this to testing. I hope I can make the changes to

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-09-04 Thread Dusty Phillips
2008/9/4 Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Thomas Bächler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Griffin schrieb: Some followups here. tpowa went ahead and handled a few of the changes I was discussing here, but there are a few more before I push this to testing. I

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-09-04 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Donnerstag 04 September 2008 schrieb Thomas Bächler: Aaron Griffin schrieb: Some followups here. tpowa went ahead and handled a few of the changes I was discussing here, but there are a few more before I push this to testing. I hope I can make the changes to load-modules.sh soon to

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-09-04 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Dusty Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/4 Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Thomas Bächler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Griffin schrieb: Some followups here. tpowa went ahead and handled a few of the changes I was

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-09-04 Thread Dan McGee
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this explaination a little better than our rules are stock too, but I'm still undecided. I'd be interested in hearing some other opinions here... Dan, you usually have good input... opinion? Without completely

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-09-04 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Dan McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this explaination a little better than our rules are stock too, but I'm still undecided. I'd be interested in hearing some other opinions here...

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-09-03 Thread Aaron Griffin
Some followups here. tpowa went ahead and handled a few of the changes I was discussing here, but there are a few more before I push this to testing. Firstly: On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Damjan Georgievski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, 51-arch.rules is being installed in /etc/udev/rules.d.

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-31 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 schrieb Aaron Griffin: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Tobias Powalowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 schrieb Aaron Griffin: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Xavier

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-31 Thread Xavier
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I am not even sure this is a problem with udev or if I did something wrong, but the auto-mount feature of gnome apparently stopped working after this upgrade. But the system boot fines, the external usb disk is still

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-31 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 schrieb Xavier: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I am not even sure this is a problem with udev or if I did something wrong, but the auto-mount feature of gnome apparently stopped working after this upgrade. But the system

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-30 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Samstag 30 August 2008 schrieb Aaron Griffin: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Eric Belanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried udev-126-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz. My machine still booted fine. The only problem that I noticed is that the /dev/sg0 device that it creates for my external USB

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-30 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/8/30 Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Eric Belanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, /etc/start_udev refers to /sbin/udevtrigger and /sbin/udevsettle. These binaries are missing in udev-126-2. If they were removed on purpose, then start_udev should be

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-30 Thread Xavier
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahah, just as I finished writing this, I saw Eric reported exactly the same. So this is just a confirmation from my side. The only thing in common with what Eric said is that the system booted fine and some problems happened

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-30 Thread Xavier
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: start_udev is still there because people were jackasses and didn't update initscripts when they updated udev or something.. I can't remember the issue, but it was people being foolish and expecting their systems to

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-30 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: start_udev is still there because people were jackasses and didn't update initscripts when they updated udev or something.. I can't remember the issue,

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-30 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 schrieb Aaron Griffin: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: start_udev is still there because people were jackasses and didn't update initscripts when they updated

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-30 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Tobias Powalowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 schrieb Aaron Griffin: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: start_udev is still there

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-30 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Tobias Powalowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 schrieb Aaron Griffin: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:45

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-29 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:24 AM, James Rayner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've let udev stagnate for a while, mostly because I'm a fool and real life

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-29 Thread Eric Belanger
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:24 AM, James Rayner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've let udev stagnate for a

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-29 Thread Xavier
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a bump here. I'd like to throw this in testing if someone else can verify I didn't make machines unbootable. When this hit's testing, it will require a rebuild of packages which contain udev rules (move from

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-29 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Eric Belanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried udev-126-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz. My machine still booted fine. The only problem that I noticed is that the /dev/sg0 device that it creates for my external USB DVD/CD-RW doesn't have the write permission for the optical

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-29 Thread Eric Belanger
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Eric Belanger wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:24 AM, James Rayner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-29 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Eric Belanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, /etc/start_udev refers to /sbin/udevtrigger and /sbin/udevsettle. These binaries are missing in udev-126-2. If they were removed on purpose, then start_udev should be updated. start_udev is still there because people

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-28 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Allan McRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My !pcspkr entry in the MODULES array of /etc/rc.conf was ignored. Looks like modprobe is still called directly in /lib/udev/rules.d/80-drivers.rules I will fix that. It should call load-modules. Fixing and re-uploading.

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-28 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Allan McRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My !pcspkr entry in the MODULES array of /etc/rc.conf was ignored. Looks like modprobe is still called directly in /lib/udev/rules.d/80-drivers.rules I will fix that. It should call load-modules. Fixing and re-uploading.

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-28 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Donnerstag 28 August 2008 schrieb Aaron Griffin: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Allan McRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My !pcspkr entry in the MODULES array of /etc/rc.conf was ignored. Looks like modprobe is still called directly in /lib/udev/rules.d/80-drivers.rules I will fix that. It

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-28 Thread Allan McRae
Aaron Griffin wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Allan McRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My !pcspkr entry in the MODULES array of /etc/rc.conf was ignored. Looks like modprobe is still called directly in /lib/udev/rules.d/80-drivers.rules I will fix that. It should call

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-28 Thread James Rayner
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've let udev stagnate for a while, mostly because I'm a fool and real life has given me a lack of time for anything serious in Arch-land. Anyway, I've rebuilt udev 126 (we're on 119, eek!) and made what changes I

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-28 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:24 AM, James Rayner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've let udev stagnate for a while, mostly because I'm a fool and real life has given me a lack of time for anything serious in Arch-land. Anyway,

[arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
So I've let udev stagnate for a while, mostly because I'm a fool and real life has given me a lack of time for anything serious in Arch-land. Anyway, I've rebuilt udev 126 (we're on 119, eek!) and made what changes I thought ideal. I would love to stick with strictly vanilla rules, but some of

Re: [arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade

2008-08-27 Thread Allan McRae
Aaron Griffin wrote: So I've let udev stagnate for a while, mostly because I'm a fool and real life has given me a lack of time for anything serious in Arch-land. Anyway, I've rebuilt udev 126 (we're on 119, eek!) and made what changes I thought ideal. I would love to stick with strictly