Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 11:17 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 18:21 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 08:18 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > Just don't use Gnome. Upstream is going to make Pulseaudio default. KDE > > > as well, maybe. > > > > > I don't see KDE upstream

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 18:21 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote: > On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 08:18 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > Just don't use Gnome. Upstream is going to make Pulseaudio default. KDE > > as well, maybe. > > > I don't see KDE upstream doing that. They have Phonon. What's more, most > KDE apps toda

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread C Anthony Risinger
2010/11/27 Ng Oon-Ee : > On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 13:01 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Philipp Überbacher >> > Gnome isn't Linux, Gnome is primarily a DAU-top. I don't see why gnome >> > should govern the direction of every distribution. Yes, ubuntu decided >> > t

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Jan Steffens
2010/11/28 Ng Oon-Ee : > On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 19:34 -0200, Bernardo Barros wrote: >> My experience is that pulseaudio sometimes works for simple desktop audio. >> Any serious work with audio it just cause (or potentially cause) problems... >> (again, just my experience) > > if (serious audio work)

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 19:34 -0200, Bernardo Barros wrote: > My experience is that pulseaudio sometimes works for simple desktop audio. > Any serious work with audio it just cause (or potentially cause) problems... > (again, just my experience) if (serious audio work); then pulseaudio -k; jackd

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 13:01 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Philipp Überbacher > > Gnome isn't Linux, Gnome is primarily a DAU-top. I don't see why gnome > > should govern the direction of every distribution. Yes, ubuntu decided > > that they want to follow and b

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 08:18 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 12:09 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote: > > > > > I stated it before, but I'll say it here, I don't think Pulse Audio is > > right for [extra]. Compiz is a lot more stable and still manages to stay > > in [community]. Pulse goes

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 12:09 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote: > > I stated it before, but I'll say it here, I don't think Pulse Audio is > right for [extra]. Compiz is a lot more stable and still manages to stay > in [community]. Pulse goes down a lot and takes sound with it and it's > getting put in [ex

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Bernardo Barros
My experience is that pulseaudio sometimes works for simple desktop audio. Any serious work with audio it just cause (or potentially cause) problems... (again, just my experience)

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Ulf Winkelvos
On 26.11.2010 21:34, Jan Steffens wrote: I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no feedback on this. This either means it works well, or nobody uses it. So I'm asking for it now, especially from GNOME and KDE users running PulseAudio. Works great for me on gnome with pu

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Δημακάκος Δημάκης
Στις Σάββατο 27 Νοέμβριος 2010 21:11:10 Δημακάκος Δημάκης γράψατε: > Στις Σάββατο 27 Νοέμβριος 2010 02:17:59 Δημακάκος Δημάκης γράψατε: > > Στις Παρασκευή 26 Νοέμβριος 2010 22:34:18 Jan Steffens γράψατε: > > > I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no > > > feedback on this.

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Δημακάκος Δημάκης
Στις Σάββατο 27 Νοέμβριος 2010 02:17:59 Δημακάκος Δημάκης γράψατε: > Στις Παρασκευή 26 Νοέμβριος 2010 22:34:18 Jan Steffens γράψατε: > > I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no > > feedback on this. > > > > This either means it works well, or nobody uses it. > > > > So I

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.36.1-3

2010-11-27 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 12:30 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > > (not to mention cool stuff like btrfs support... that's about to lead to > _managed_ KERNEL rollbacks under Archlinux in < 48hrs... *cough* > hint... :-) well once again i've been defeated... i thought i found a clever way to suppor

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > Excerpts from C Anthony Risinger's message of 2010-11-27 08:11:04 +0100: >> 2010/11/27 Ng Oon-Ee : >> > On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 23:02 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> >> On Nov 26, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Allan McRae wrote: >> >> >> >> > On

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 21:26 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 11:55 +, Peter Lewis wrote: > > On Saturday 27 November 2010 06:30:36 Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > > >> Good to see the overwhelming positive lean; is pulse being considered > > > > >> for an eventual default by chance? > > >

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 11:55 +, Peter Lewis wrote: > On Saturday 27 November 2010 06:30:36 Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > >> Good to see the overwhelming positive lean; is pulse being considered > > > >> for an eventual default by chance? > > > > > > > > Almost nothing is default on Arch... > > > > So

Re: [arch-general] Latest xf86-video-intel: X issues

2010-11-27 Thread Bharani Deepan
On 11/27/10 at 09:17pm, mwnn wrote: > Hi, > After upgrading to the latest xf86-video-intel package I am > facing the following problems: > - XDM is not visible (only the mouse pointer shows up; Even though I > am able to login by entering my username and password). > - Windows do not move fluen

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Jan Steffens
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:49 PM, ianux wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Le 26/11/10, Seblu a écrit : > > >> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Jan Steffens >> wrote: >> > I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no >> > feedback on this. >> > >> >

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread ianux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 26/11/10, Seblu a écrit : > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Jan Steffens > wrote: > > I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no > > feedback on this. > > > > This either means it works well, or nobody uses it. > > > It w

[arch-general] Latest xf86-video-intel: X issues

2010-11-27 Thread mwnn
Hi, After upgrading to the latest xf86-video-intel package I am facing the following problems: - XDM is not visible (only the mouse pointer shows up; Even though I am able to login by entering my username and password). - Windows do not move fluently. There is a clearly visible drag. Regar

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Mauro Santos
On 27-11-2010 13:19, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 11:33 +, Mauro Santos wrote: >> On 27-11-2010 01:18, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: >>> On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 21:34 +0100, Jan Steffens wrote: I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no feedback on this.

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 11:55 +, Peter Lewis wrote: > On Saturday 27 November 2010 06:30:36 Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > >> Good to see the overwhelming positive lean; is pulse being considered > > > >> for an eventual default by chance? > > > > > > > > Almost nothing is default on Arch... > > > > So

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 11:33 +, Mauro Santos wrote: > On 27-11-2010 01:18, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 21:34 +0100, Jan Steffens wrote: > >> I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no > >> feedback on this. > >> > >> This either means it works well, or nobod

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 21:34 +0100, Jan Steffens wrote: > I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no > feedback on this. > > This either means it works well, or nobody uses it. > > So I'm asking for it now, especially from GNOME and KDE users running > PulseAudio. Tested ye

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Damjan
I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no feedback on this. This either means it works well, or nobody uses it. So I'm asking for it now, especially from GNOME and KDE users running PulseAudio. I tested it a while on KDE and as expected it has downsides compared to usin

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Peter Lewis
On Saturday 27 November 2010 06:30:36 Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > >> Good to see the overwhelming positive lean; is pulse being considered > > >> for an eventual default by chance? > > > > > > Almost nothing is default on Arch... > > So you should ask Gnome. And the answer is that yes, it will be default

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

2010-11-27 Thread Mauro Santos
On 27-11-2010 01:18, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 21:34 +0100, Jan Steffens wrote: >> I've put PulseAudio into [testing] some time ago, but received no >> feedback on this. >> >> This either means it works well, or nobody uses it. >> >> So I'm asking for it now, especially from GNOME an