Hi :)
people told me that Arch Linux will not force me to install PA. Today I
continued to set up my Arch Linux. A cold still hinder me to work very
long on my computer, so until now Google didn't help me to find an easy
solution to get rid of PA. Arch Linux on my machine does force me to
install
On 12/23/2011 10:41 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
Hi :)
people told me that Arch Linux will not force me to install PA. Today I
continued to set up my Arch Linux. A cold still hinder me to work very
long on my computer, so until now Google didn't help me to find an easy
solution to get rid of PA.
The 22/12/11, Angel Velásquez wrote:
The experts, normal people, and even noobs like me would say to you ..
PLEASE READ THE NEWS DUDE, (its like the 5th time you write a mail
asking questions, when the solution it's posted on the front page)..
Don't you think you're big enough to learn this
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:17 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
can you clarify that you are talking about pulseaudio and not about
libpulse?
# pacman -Rss pulseaudio
checking dependencies...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: gnome-settings-daemon: requires
I believe you have to remove each package that pulseaudio depends on. You
can reinstall them after.
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:17 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
can you clarify that you are talking about pulseaudio and not
On 12/23/2011 11:25 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:17 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
can you clarify that you are talking about pulseaudio and not about
libpulse?
# pacman -Rss pulseaudio
checking dependencies...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy
You could do that by doing pacman -Rsc pulseaudio .. but be extremely
careful with that command. It deletes everything recursively down
(cascading as man pacman puts it).
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org wrote:
On 12/23/2011 11:25 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Fri,
you can't use gnome 3 without pulse audio. if you don't want to use pulse
audio, consider using another DE or WM.
Pulse recently replaced esound as the dependent sound server for
gnome[1], esound has been marked dead.
You might have some relative success if you drop pulse and do some
per-application configuration to redirect their default output to alsa
or OSS. While this would work for applications such as
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 10:22 +0100, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 22/12/11, Angel Velásquez wrote:
The experts, normal people, and even noobs like me would say to you ..
PLEASE READ THE NEWS DUDE, (its like the 5th time you write a mail
asking questions, when the solution it's posted on the
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:27 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
On 12/23/2011 11:25 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:17 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
can you clarify that you are talking about pulseaudio and not about
libpulse?
# pacman -Rss pulseaudio
checking dependencies...
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 04:29 -0500, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
You could do that by doing pacman -Rsc pulseaudio .. but be extremely
careful with that command. It deletes everything recursively down
(cascading as man pacman puts it).
I know this command, but this won't solve the issue, that PA on
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Ralf Madorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:27 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
On 12/23/2011 11:25 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:17 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
can you clarify that you are talking about pulseaudio and not
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 13:02 +0330, ali.mous...@gmail.com wrote:
you can't use gnome 3 without pulse audio. if you don't want to use pulse
audio, consider using another DE or WM.
At the moment I'm using Xfce only, but I will have the libre to use
GNOME3 too, since it works without PA. It did
2011/12/23 Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 13:02 +0330, ali.mous...@gmail.com wrote:
you can't use gnome 3 without pulse audio. if you don't want to use pulse
audio, consider using another DE or WM.
At the moment I'm using Xfce only, but I will have the libre to
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 10:38 +0100, Stefan Wilkens wrote:
Pulse recently replaced esound as the dependent sound server for
gnome[1], esound has been marked dead.
You might have some relative success if you drop pulse and do some
per-application configuration to redirect their default output
On 12/23/2011 11:51 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:27 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
On 12/23/2011 11:25 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:17 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
can you clarify that you are talking about pulseaudio and not about
libpulse?
# pacman -Rss
Arch Linux stands by being as close as possible to upstream. If upstream
makes a decision, Arch follows it. Arch hardly patches anything at all. So
basically whatever packages you get when you try to install something, is
the way that upstream wanted those packages to be installed.
On Fri, Dec
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 03:39 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
Do not install an application requiring it?
Why does GDM require it?
Why does GNOME3 require it?
You'll need to provide context about what you're trying to accomplish
(clear and simple goals) and what you've already done (eg. I ran
You should speak to GNOME about why they require PA. If Debian doesn't
require it, then they most likely patched it to not require it. Arch
doesn't really patch .. avoids it if possible.
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 03:39
Am Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:53:56 +0100
schrieb Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net:
I know this command, but this won't solve the issue, that PA on Arch
Linux is a dependency for software that don't need PA.
I want a clean solution.
Run pacman -Qi pulseaudio to see what package(s) forces you
On 12/23/2011 12:11 PM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 03:39 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
Do not install an application requiring it?
Why does GDM require it?
Why does GNOME3 require it?
why are you talking about it here? We are not GNOME.
but to answer your question, gdm
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 10:57:40 Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 13:02 +0330, ali.mous...@gmail.com wrote:
you can't use gnome 3 without pulse audio. if you don't want to use
pulse audio, consider using another DE or WM.
At the moment I'm using Xfce only, but I will have the libre
On Dec 23, 2011 5:43 PM, Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 10:22 +0100, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 22/12/11, Angel Velásquez wrote:
The experts, normal people, and even noobs like me would say to you ..
PLEASE READ THE NEWS DUDE, (its like the 5th
Hello everyone,
I was reading the package signing discussion that was going on over at the
[pacman-dev] mailing list
http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2011-February/012483.html
and Allan said the following:
I think I know every distribution using pacman as a package manager and
Hi,
python-urwid and python2-urwid now seem to contain .pyo files, but they didn't
before. Just thought I'd check that this was intentional.
Caveat: I know nothing about python packaging, but pacman just gave me a bunch
of file conflicts for .pyo files not previously owned by anything.
Pete.
Wow :D
I first just asked for a solution similar to Debian dummy packages and
get tons [1] of insults.
Then I explained why I (and I know a lot of other people) will install
e.g. GNOME. I'll do it again. We might wish to use this DE or simply GDM
as login manager. I don't blame Arch Linux
On 23/12/11 20:32, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
Hello everyone,
I was reading the package signing discussion that was going on over at the
[pacman-dev] mailing list
http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2011-February/012483.html
and Allan said the following:
I think I know every
2011/12/23 Jonathan Vasquez jvasquez1...@gmail.com:
Hello everyone,
I was reading the package signing discussion that was going on over at the
[pacman-dev] mailing list
http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2011-February/012483.html
and Allan said the following:
I think I know
Thanks for the response. Do you consider Arch a production system or more
of a hobby project? Meaning more like a side system and not a main one.
On Dec 23, 2011 5:39 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:
On 23/12/11 20:32, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
Hello everyone,
I was reading the
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 05:32:25 Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
I wanted to know what was he trying to say? Is he saying that Arch and
other Arch-like distros aren't serious distros that aren't meant for
production? I mean I understand that Arch is rolling release and all
that, but it's packages are
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:13 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
Am Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:53:56 +0100
schrieb Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net:
I know this command, but this won't solve the issue, that PA on Arch
Linux is a dependency for software that don't need PA.
I want a clean solution.
On 23/12/11 20:41, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
Thanks for the response. Do you consider Arch a production system or more
of a hobby project? Meaning more like a side system and not a main one.
I have used it in production. But then again, I have quite a good idea
of what is happening in Arch Land
On Sun 04 December 2011 at 20:47 +0100, Rémy Oudompheng wrote:
Hello,
I have done an update of TeXLive to catch up with the distribution
updates. I think I had a free fix for FS#25250, the packages are in
[testing] and will move to [extra] quite quickly unless new problmes
are reported.
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:16 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
if you don't like gdm, remove it and replace it with lxdm,lightdm or
other crap out there.
I like GDM. I don't like login managers where I can't browse the users.
- Ralf
On 23/12/11 20:49, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:16 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
if you don't like gdm, remove it and replace it with lxdm,lightdm or
other crap out there.
I like GDM. I don't like login managers where I can't browse the users.
Good to see you did you research on
Am 23.12.2011 11:29, schrieb Alexander van den Berghe:
On 12/23/2011 10:43 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 10:22 +0100, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 22/12/11, Angel Velásquez wrote:
The experts, normal people, and even noobs like me would say to you ..
PLEASE READ THE NEWS
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 11:45:23 Ralf Madorf wrote:
I'll use jack, no desktop sound, no Skype etc., just pro and consumer
multimedia apps, flashplayer.
There hopefully is a way to fake that PA is installed.
Hi Ralph,
I have no idea if this will work for you but try this:
1) Create an empty
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 10:17 +, Peter Lewis wrote:
And if you want to, file a bug report upstream about the dependency on pulse.
As others already pointed out. It's not a bug regarding to Arch
packages, but the policy of GNOME3 to make it the default sound sever.
OTOH here should be a
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 21:02:43 Allan McRae wrote:
I like GDM. I don't like login managers where I can't browse the users.
Good to see you did you research on other login managers...
I don't think this kind of sarcasm is going to help Ralph, and is likely to
make him more frustrated, which
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 10:17 +, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
However, if I understand correctly, you're interested in using ArchLinux for
a
Digital Audio Workstation?
Yes
If you only need to use a couple of tools, you may
find that you don't need a desktop environment, and could get away
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Ralf Madorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
Wow :D
I first just asked for a solution similar to Debian dummy packages and
get tons [1] of insults.
Then I explained why I (and I know a lot of other people) will install
e.g. GNOME. I'll do it again. We
Quoting Ralf Madorf (2011-12-23 11:35:49)
Wow :D
I first just asked for a solution similar to Debian dummy packages and
get tons [1] of insults.
No, you didn't. You only mentioned that you used dummy packages on
debian. You asked and talked about a lot of other things.
Please consider writing
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 12:06:37 Kwpolska wrote:
Dear idiot,
I'm kinda wondering why you aren't filtered from my mailbox yet.
[..]
I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E. Period.
Seriously? It's comments like this that make me wonder if subscribing to this
list is really worth it. At least you did go on to
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:53 +0100, G. Schlisio wrote:
maybe not the right place here, but has to be mentioned IMHO:
the search restriction for the forum at archlinux.org is really
annnoying. i like doing intense research before asking, but the
one-search-per-minuite limit (or something about
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:21 +0100, Ralf Madorf wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:53 +0100, G. Schlisio wrote:
maybe not the right place here, but has to be mentioned IMHO:
the search restriction for the forum at archlinux.org is really
annnoying. i like doing intense research before asking,
Hi,
At least I need Xfce.
I was a KDE3 user (for some tasks I used Ion2). When KDE4 replaced KDE3
I switched to GNOME2 and when GNOME3 replaced GNOME2 I switched to Xfce.
I tested a lot of DEs/WMs.
Really? Did you do that?
I know there are themes for slim that are easily available which
EDIT
I believe that unless your other applications (the ones that matter) do not
directly require pulseaudio, you should be fine.
I believe that unless your other applications (the ones that matter) do
directly require pulseaudio, you should be fine.
--
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 10:56 +, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 11:45:23 Ralf Madorf wrote:
I'll use jack, no desktop sound, no Skype etc., just pro and consumer
multimedia apps, flashplayer.
There hopefully is a way to fake that PA is installed.
Hi Ralph,
I have no
On Dec 23, 2011 7:21 PM, Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:53 +0100, G. Schlisio wrote:
maybe not the right place here, but has to be mentioned IMHO:
the search restriction for the forum at archlinux.org is really
annnoying. i like doing intense
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:06 +0100, Kwpolska wrote:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Ralf Madorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
Wow :D
I first just asked for a solution similar to Debian dummy packages and
get tons [1] of insults.
Then I explained why I (and I know a lot of other
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:02 +, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 21:02:43 Allan McRae wrote:
I like GDM. I don't like login managers where I can't browse the users.
Good to see you did you research on other login managers...
I don't think this kind of sarcasm is going to
PS:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:06 +0100, Kwpolska wrote:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Ralf Madorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
(b) learn how to code and cut
out all sound stuff out of gnome-settings-daemon.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=998403#p998403
But this won't
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 11:18:33 Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 12:06:37 Kwpolska wrote:
Dear idiot,
I'm kinda wondering why you aren't filtered from my mailbox yet.
[..]
I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E. Period.
Seriously? It's comments like this that make me wonder if
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 16:57 +0530, Jayesh Badwaik wrote:
You can simply turn pulseaudio off!!!
I wonder if this works
#!/bin/bash
#Kill PulseAudio and PulseAudio Device Chooser
pulseaudio --kill
killall padevchooser
Stuff like that is discussed since years and often killing PA shipped
with
PS:
killall padevchooser
Perhaps this was missing when people killed PA and they still had
issues.
I simply believe that a man should know how Linux works, and not how Arch
Linux or Debian or Fedora works.
Basic approach, not distro-oriented approach. So I agree with Allan, you
can't be depending on a single distro, you need to know how to deal with
every single Linux system (major distros at
man pasuspender
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:
On 23/12/11 20:32, Peter Lewis wrote:
Hi,
python-urwid and python2-urwid now seem to contain .pyo files, but they
didn't
before. Just thought I'd check that this was intentional.
Caveat: I know nothing about python
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 14:03 +0100, Alessandro Doro wrote:
man pasuspender
Ok, so it's usually not running ...
[spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ pidof pulseaudio
1051
[spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ pidof pasuspender
[spinymouse@archlinux ~]$
... OT: OTOH I don't really understand how it works or why it
On 23/12/11 20:32, Peter Lewis wrote:
python-urwid and python2-urwid now seem to contain .pyo files, but
they didn't before. Just thought I'd check that this was intentional.
Caveat: I know nothing about python packaging, but pacman just gave me
a bunch of file conflicts for .pyo files not
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 14:34:21 Ralf Madorf wrote:
... OT: OTOH I don't really understand how it works or why it seemingly
won't solve some PA issues when it's running.
I think you need to use it to invoke other programs:
# pasuspender startx
or maybe inside .xinirc:
exec pasuspender
This is a Unix issue and not even a Linux issue though Linux tends to be
worse than other Unices. OpenBSD tries to minimise these dependencies
as more code equals more bugs but they do get constant headaches from
upstream. It's better than having ancient libraries like on windows
around though.
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
[...] I have to disable 3d support on some machines,
due to the gaping security hole that graphics cards require [...]
OT:
Would you care to elaborate on this? What security hole do you have
C Anthony Risinger wrote:
# ldconfig -v
ldconfig: Can't stat /usr/lib64: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/libfakeroot:
libfakeroot-0.so - libfakeroot.so
/usr/lib/perl5/core_perl/CORE:
libperl.so - libperl.so
/lib:
Aborted
I think there's no harm in mkdir /usr/lib64.
To
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:57:11 +0100
Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 10:17 +, Peter Lewis wrote:
And if you want to, file a bug report upstream about the dependency on
pulse.
As others already pointed out. It's not a bug regarding to Arch
packages,
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 14:05 +, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 14:34:21 Ralf Madorf wrote:
... OT: OTOH I don't really understand how it works or why it seemingly
won't solve some PA issues when it's running.
I think you need to use it to invoke other programs:
#
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 14:34 +, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
This is a Unix issue and not even a Linux issue though Linux tends to be
worse than other Unices. OpenBSD tries to minimise these dependencies
as more code equals more bugs but they do get constant headaches from
upstream. It's better
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 09:44 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
Can you suggest something better? I don't think so.
Yes, jackd would be much better. Pulseaudio is an unlucky choice. If
there's no PA installed and people don't wish to handle jackd, ALSA
already is able to do all what's needed. What was
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:03:16 +0100
Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 09:44 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
Can you suggest something better? I don't think so.
Yes, jackd would be much better. Pulseaudio is an unlucky choice. If
there's no PA installed and
I agree. After a person uses Linux for a while, they start to notice that
most distros are pretty identical. The only things that change are package
names, package manager, packages used, directory structure (where do we
install packages, man files, etc), and the philosophy/goals of that distro.
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:17 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:03:16 +0100
Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 09:44 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
Can you suggest something better? I don't think so.
Yes, jackd would be much better.
I agree with Paul and Peter. People cant be treating others like crap just
because they are asking for help. If you don't have anything better to say,
then just be quiet and filter, you don't have to contribute. I've only been
on these mailing lists for a few days and I know most people aren't
2011/12/23 Jonathan Vasquez jvasquez1...@gmail.com:
I agree with Paul and Peter. People cant be treating others like crap just
because they are asking for help. If you don't have anything better to say,
then just be quiet and filter, you don't have to contribute. I've only been
on these
Haha alright thanks :)
On Dec 23, 2011 2:21 PM, Stefan Wilkens stefanwilk...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/12/23 Jonathan Vasquez jvasquez1...@gmail.com:
I agree with Paul and Peter. People cant be treating others like crap
just
because they are asking for help. If you don't have anything better to
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:54:35 +0100
Tom Gundersen wrote:
[...] I have to disable 3d support on some
machines,
due to the gaping security hole that graphics cards require [...]
OT:
Would you care to elaborate on this? What security hole do you have in mind?
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:34:21 +0100
Ralf Madorf wrote:
Ok, so it's usually not running ...
I've used chmod 000 in the past when I couldn't find where something
was initialising but updates will reset the permissions and using
immutability might make pacman error and die.
Is there a way to tell
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:35:23 +
Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
You can use framebuffer mode or the nouveau driver instead of the
nvidia binary and still run X with RAWIO access disabled but with
limited acceleration.
Interesting, how does it work with nouveau? Disabling
Let's not forget Loui, We are all human and make mistakes. A QA process is
definitely a good thing.
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri 23 Dec 2011 10:42 +, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 05:32:25 Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
I
Hello,
I have been looking into GNUStep and Etoile development recently, and
I ran into an Arch packaging issue that I'm not sure how to address.
Essentially, Etoile requires the experimental GNUStep libobjc runtime
(libobjc2 or GNUStep runtime) that has additional features from
Objective 2.0.
However, I think Arch is a good distro for every purpose, from desktop to
server, because of it's usercentricness.
If you break something, you can fall back and most of the times, if you
broke a system component, it's your fault.
There's [testing] and maintainers don't push unattended dangerous
Am Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:52:13 -0500
schrieb Jonathan Vasquez jvasquez1...@gmail.com:
Let's not forget Loui, We are all human and make mistakes. A QA
process is definitely a good thing.
Is QA the thing what makes Debian so bleeding edge? *SCNR*
I haven't had any stability issues with Arch
Yup it is QA for Arch's model which is what I was going to yell you when I
started reading your response ;).
It depends how you implement QA.
On Dec 23, 2011 4:31 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote:
Am Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:52:13 -0500
schrieb Jonathan Vasquez jvasquez1...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:54:35 +0100
Tom Gundersen wrote:
[...] I have to disable 3d support on some
machines,
due to the gaping security hole that graphics cards require [...]
OT:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote:
Am Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:52:13 -0500
schrieb Jonathan Vasquez jvasquez1...@gmail.com:
Let's not forget Loui, We are all human and make mistakes. A QA
process is definitely a good thing.
Is QA the thing what makes
On 12/23/2011 02:10 PM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
This isn't the original Linux policy, this is some new policy and one
after the other distro gets impacted by this new style.
Um what? GNOME is not Linux, nor is it Arch Linux. If you don't like
what GNOME is doing, don't use it. :p
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On 12/23/2011 05:03 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
So I should install PA, while not using it? Is this the interpretation
of KISS by Arch Linux?
I already have written that I'll use a HDSP card = HDSP mixer, a desktop
mixer thingy won't be able to handle such an audio card and my sound
server will
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 22:34 -0500, Brendan Long wrote:
Is it really worth the effort to save 5 MB of disk space (while having
random broken packages)?
When the packages pulseaudio and pulseaudio-alsa
(including /etc/asound.conf) are replaced by a dummy package no other
package would be broken.
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 22:28 -0500, Brendan Long wrote:
If you don't like what GNOME is doing, don't use it. :p
Please read my mails more carefully. I do like what many GNOME apps are
doing. I already switched to Xfce, but from time to time I'll test
GNOME3 and even if there might be no need for
On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 08:08 +0100, Ralf Madorf wrote:
[snip]
IIUC https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PKGBUILD#provides [snip]
provides=('pulseaudio
pulseaudio-alsa')
?!
provides=('pulseaudio'
'pulseaudio-alsa')
?!
- Ralf
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
[...] what would be the difference [...] For Debian I [...]
Ralf ...
your thread has managed to generate 65+ responses in 24 hours -- yet
you have not actually encountered a problem, nor produced anything
concrete
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