On 01/29/2012 11:28 AM, Karol Babioch wrote:
Hi,
do you have any log files? Because helping you just by reading about the
issues is quite hard. I haven't experienced anything similar to your
description so far.
Am 29.01.2012 19:54, schrieb Don deJuan:
but on arch forums and on here I read of m
>
After installing cpupower package - (thanks wiki :-))
and
modprobing acpi_cpufreq cpufreq_ondemand
and starting the cpopower "daemon" it seems that the screen dimming is
working correctly now in KDE - I will check the cpupower frequency state
to confirm - and check and check that it cont
^^^battery life
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jan Steffens wrote:
> You seem to possess the misconception that the existence of PA on a
> system is somehow in conflict with pro-audio software.
It's true that professional users typically make some compromises to
have the best system for audio.
But.. not using
On 01/28/2012 03:26 AM, Morris wrote:
> I have a W520 too and I can share what I did for power management in KDE:
>
> - first of all, I suggest you to install tlp [1] from aur
> - I wrote a little bash script [2] to set cpufreq's governor and lcd's
> brightness, located in /root/governor.sh
> - e
On 01/29/2012 11:04 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> I need to read more ... to get the right driver installed first I guess.
>
Lots of great info here .. doh me ..
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CPU_Frequency_Scaling
cpupower followup:
I installed cpupower but a short test for me didn't work ..
1) ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreqy
Is empty ..
2) cpupower -c 0 frequency-set -g ondemand
Setting cpu: 0
Error setting new values. Common errors:
- Do you have proper administration rights? (super-us
On 01/28/2012 03:26 AM, Morris wrote:
>>
> Hello Gene,
>
> I have a W520 too and I can share what I did for power management in KDE:
...
> using these settings my laptop correctly switches profile on AC->BAT (and
> viceversa) events
>
> Cheers,
> Morris
>
>
> [1] - https://aur.archlinux.org
On 01/27/2012 01:55 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
I confirm that after a few sleep cycles - when I pull A/C on laptop
while its awake, the power applet does not put the laptop into battery mode.
I filed a bug here since this is clearly an upstream issue.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.c
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
> I didn't say anything about pro-audio software, I've spoken about DEs
> like Gnome 3 and some distros which want to have PA installed as a
> dependency and probably don't work anymore without PA. If this is or at
> least will be the case then
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:28:00AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 23:11 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> > A trained audio engineer knows how to find out
> > such things and get them right, but the average user is completely
> > lost if there is more than one control that affects
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 23:11 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> A trained audio engineer knows how to find out
> such things and get them right, but the average user is completely
> lost if there is more than one control that affects volume.
So I have translated the text correctly. Comparing two 1s si
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 23:33 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf
> wrote:
> > Since the sound device is ok when using ALSA only, the +4dBu vs -10dBV
> > information or any ratio dB to fader position or what ever you mean,
> > must be somewhere provided corre
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:33:34PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> ALSA is not using this information in the same way (if at all). It is
> a well known problem that PA will act crazy if the dB values from ALSA
> are wrong, but ALSA itself mostly does not care (because the user is
> setting all the
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Norbert Zeh wrote:
> Thanks, Tom. Now that I know where to look next, I'll play with this next
> time
> I have some spare time for this kind of stuff.
I recommend going to #systemd on freenode if you have data/questions,
they are very friendly and helpful.
Che
Tom Gundersen [2012.01.29 2241 +0100]:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Norbert Zeh wrote:
> > Things I observed (on Ubuntu, Mint, openSUSE, Arch...so it's not
> > distro-specific) were way too low input (mic) and output volumes even when
> > setting the volume controls to 100%. I really wanted
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> Since the sound device is ok when using ALSA only, the +4dBu vs -10dBV
> information or any ratio dB to fader position or what ever you mean,
> must be somewhere provided correctly by ALSA. If such a dB issue should
> be the cause, than I sus
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:17:38PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> My is based on a bug report, upstream's solution for closing this bug
> report - this weird ALSA configuration which cripples those cards to
> pure stereo cards - and their response to the reopening of this bug
> report.
The ALSA 'ro
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:55:28 +
schrieb Fons Adriaensen :
> Could be. My impression is based on talking with LP face to face.
> And yours ?
My is based on a bug report, upstream's solution for closing this bug
report - this weird ALSA configuration which cripples those cards to
pure stereo car
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 22:41 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Norbert Zeh wrote:
> > Things I observed (on Ubuntu, Mint, openSUSE, Arch...so it's not
> > distro-specific) were way too low input (mic) and output volumes even when
> > setting the volume controls to 100%.
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:27:46 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Hi :)
>
> the real issue isn't solved, but here are two hints how to get rid of PA
> for current Arch Linux, to stop the never ending, useless discussion.
>
> On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 13:23 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> > Just get your job do
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:02:25PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:42:33 +
> schrieb Fons Adriaensen :
>
> > They *DO* know and understand the difference between consumer and
> > 'pro' audio.
>
> I have another impression.
Could be. My impression is based on talking with L
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Norbert Zeh wrote:
> Things I observed (on Ubuntu, Mint, openSUSE, Arch...so it's not
> distro-specific) were way too low input (mic) and output volumes even when
> setting the volume controls to 100%. I really wanted to use PA because it
> offers something ALSA d
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:03:13 -0400
schrieb Norbert Zeh :
> Let me chime in here to add an important point to this discussion.
> The whole discussion so far sounds as if PA works great with non-pro
> cards and breaks only on pro cards. That's not the case: PA has
> problems even with what is proba
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:35:07 +0100
schrieb Jelle van der Waa :
> Indeed, this should be the thing the complainers _should_ be doing.
> Archlinux ships vanilla upstream, so you're really barking at the
> wrong tree here. Please consider asking either PA for help or ditch
> it.
I don't think this
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:42:33 +
schrieb Fons Adriaensen :
> They *DO* know and understand the difference between consumer and
> 'pro' audio.
I have another impression.
> I wonder what your problem is. There is no audio production software
> I know of that uses or depends on PA. It's going to
Hi :)
the real issue isn't solved, but here are two hints how to get rid of PA
for current Arch Linux, to stop the never ending, useless discussion.
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 13:23 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> Just get your job done and in the evening rebuild the package.
I'm using this package sinc
On 01/29/2012 11:28 AM, Karol Babioch wrote:
Hi,
do you have any log files? Because helping you just by reading about the
issues is quite hard. I haven't experienced anything similar to your
description so far.
Sadly I can not find any logs that state anything relating to the issue
I have. Noth
Hi,
do you have any log files? Because helping you just by reading about the
issues is quite hard. I haven't experienced anything similar to your
description so far.
Am 29.01.2012 19:54, schrieb Don deJuan:
> but on arch forums and on here I read of many people with no issue with
> current X and
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:44:46 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 16:57 +0100, Martti Kühne wrote:
> > it's actually possible to get most features that come with gdm, eg.
> > session chooser, working with xdm.
>
> This was the same for GDM. What would you do if the next upgrade will
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Martti Kühne wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> ./configure --disable-pulse when compiling gnome-settings-daemon should
>> do this for this and some other situations, but that was not what we try
>> to explain as the problem.
First off I just would like to start off by saying please do not tell me
to use nouveau. They do not work and have not worked for me on multiple
distros for well over a year now. I also need cuda support on my laptop.
I am currently running the xorg-nv driver.
I am at a complete loss as far as
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> ./configure --disable-pulse when compiling gnome-settings-daemon should
> do this for this and some other situations, but that was not what we try
> to explain as the problem.
>
Awesome, is this in aur yet? :D
cheers!
mar77i
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 18:52 +0100, Martti Kühne wrote:
> Great. So the patches for the actual problem - GDM - are out next week?
> Leave a message if you need any help with that. You would naturally start with
Why do you diss me?
It's not the problem. If it would be GDM only than simply use this:
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Martti Kühne wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 05:44:46PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 16:57 +0100, Martti Kühne wrote:
>> > it's actually possible to get most features that come with gdm, eg.
>> > session chooser, working with xdm.
>>
>> Thi
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 05:44:46PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 16:57 +0100, Martti Kühne wrote:
> > it's actually possible to get most features that come with gdm, eg.
> > session chooser, working with xdm.
>
> This was the same for GDM. What would you do if the next upgrade
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Thanasis Georgiou wrote:
> On 29 January 2012 18:44, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > [snip]
> > When I've got a set up and I'll upgrade it, it's ok if things get
> > borked, because of a new sound server. But if a group of people file bug
> > reports, than it's ignorant n
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 04:33:54PM +, Clive Cooper wrote:
> > This will make "python" refer to python3, but only for the current shell.
> If it is of any interest I had a similar problem when compiling alsalib.
> I just uninstalled python3. Done the compiling and then reinstalled python3.
> It
On 29 January 2012 18:44, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> [snip]
> When I've got a set up and I'll upgrade it, it's ok if things get
> borked, because of a new sound server. But if a group of people file bug
> reports, than it's ignorant not to fix the new sound server, but instead
> to demand that it must
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 17:28 +0100, Kwpolska wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ralf Mardorf
> > Perhaps you've got good
> > reasons to install Windows, if not, try wine or try to install Windows
> > to a virtual machine, since this at least could save the trouble to
> > reboot.
>
> Have you
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 16:57 +0100, Martti Kühne wrote:
> it's actually possible to get most features that come with gdm, eg.
> session chooser, working with xdm.
This was the same for GDM. What would you do if the next upgrade will
make XDM depend to PA? Of cause, you'll simply install another log
> I had the same problem with ChromiumOS, the problem is indeed that the
> scripts are exec'ing "python" without knowing that it’s python3 (and
> of course it occurs even if you run python2 in the first place)
> The solution I found is the following :
>
> mkdir /tmp/python2
> ln -s /usr/bin/python2
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 12:44 +0100, Kwpolska wrote:
>> It's an OEM, I'm changing PCs, so it won't work. I am reinstalling
>> Windows anyway, because using XP on such machine (3-core AMD Athlon
>> 3.4GHz, GeForce GTS450, USB3.0, 4GB RAM) would
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:03:13AM -0400, Norbert Zeh wrote:
> Things I observed (on Ubuntu, Mint, openSUSE, Arch...so it's not
> distro-specific) were way too low input (mic) and output volumes even when
> setting the volume controls to 100%. I really wanted to use PA because it
> offers somethin
2012/1/29 Madhurya Kakati :
> Hi,
> I am trying to compile android 4.0 with the help of an article I found
> online[1]. When I execute a command I get the following error:
>
> $ python2 ~/bin/repo init -u http://git.android-x86.org/manifest -b ics-x86
> File "/home/papul/android-x86/.repo/repo/ma
On 29-01-2012 15:03, Norbert Zeh wrote:
> As many others, I am happily running without PA and will probably be able to
> continue to do so for a long time because I don't even use Gnome or KDE. I
> just
> felt the need to add to the discussion because some people in this thread
> defend
> PA as
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 11:06 -0400, Norbert Zeh wrote:
> Fons Adriaensen [2012.01.29 1442 +]:
> > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 02:46:37PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> >
> > > This has already been tried at least with pulseaudio. Their reactions
> > > are known. Blame ALSA for PA's faults while ALSA
Rodrigo Amorim Bahiense, Sun 2012-01-29 @ 13:04:39-0200:
> Moving /usr to a separate partition is not recommended:
It is supported as of recently, if you use the right hooks in your
mkinitcpio config.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio#.2Fusr_as_a_separate_partition
pgpU2TJckvlzt.p
Fons Adriaensen [2012.01.29 1442 +]:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 02:46:37PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
>
> > This has already been tried at least with pulseaudio. Their reactions
> > are known. Blame ALSA for PA's faults while ALSA supports those card
> > perfectly since years, and crippling tho
On Jan 28, 2012 5:07 PM, "P NIKOLIC" wrote:
>
> Hi Tim .
>
> Glad i am not the only one , I have a spare drive i am thinking of
moving /usr to it see if it will work like that ..
>
> Pete .
Moving /usr to a separate partition is not recommended:
http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-
Heiko Baums [2012.01.29 1446 +0100]:
> Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:58:31 +0100
> schrieb Tom Gundersen :
>
> > Sounds like possibly valid concerns. But this is not something to
> > discuss here. Please contact gnome and/or pulseaudio if you have
> > issues.
>
> This has already been tried at least wit
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 02:46:37PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> This has already been tried at least with pulseaudio. Their reactions
> are known. Blame ALSA for PA's faults while ALSA supports those card
> perfectly since years, and crippling those audio cards down to stereo
> with some very stra
Hi :)
I'll test if it will be possible to replace jack2 by jackdbus for my
needs, e.g. if it's easy to change my session scripts for older audio
productions to use it.
I started it by $ jackdbus auto, now I've got $ pidof jackdbus
7201 and I'm unable to kill it.
*google*
$ jack_control --help
Tr
On Jan 29, 2012 4:13 PM, "Thanasis Georgiou" wrote:
>>Look at the command carefully. I used python2. That means it is running
python
> > 2.7.2. Right now I am downloading python2.6 from AUR. Hope that helps.
> > --
> > Madhurya Kakati
>
> Yes but check, for example, line 23 in the repo script. It
Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:58:31 +0100
schrieb Tom Gundersen :
> Sounds like possibly valid concerns. But this is not something to
> discuss here. Please contact gnome and/or pulseaudio if you have
> issues.
This has already been tried at least with pulseaudio. Their reactions
are known. Blame ALSA f
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 13:46 +0100, Bastien Dejean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried the nouveau driver and I noticed gradients were rough, I thought
> it might be related to the color depth but I didn't found any relevant
> option in the nouveau manual, so I tried passing depth parameters to
> startx but i
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 13:46 +0100, Bastien Dejean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried the nouveau driver and I noticed gradients were rough, I thought
> it might be related to the color depth but I didn't found any relevant
> option in the nouveau manual, so I tried passing depth parameters to
> startx but i
Hi,
I tried the nouveau driver and I noticed gradients were rough, I thought
it might be related to the color depth but I didn't found any relevant
option in the nouveau manual, so I tried passing depth parameters to
startx but it didn't help.
Any hints?
Greetings,
--
b.d
(| |)
^ ^
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 12:44 +0100, Kwpolska wrote:
> It's an OEM, I'm changing PCs, so it won't work. I am reinstalling
> Windows anyway, because using XP on such machine (3-core AMD Athlon
> 3.4GHz, GeForce GTS450, USB3.0, 4GB RAM) would be a stupid idea.
Did you test wine or virtualization?
I'm
Okay then, I don't think I'd get more responses than that. I think
I'll choose C Anthony Risinger's solution, because I trust rsync more
than regular cp.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:15 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
>
> the only probalem would be windows, if NTFS has some kind of internal
> UUID, a
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 11:07 +, Mauro Santos wrote:
> On 29-01-2012 10:50, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > I just ask that upgrades don't break a working machine, caused by
> > unneeded dependencies. If a studio used GNOME, than an upgrade shouldn't
> > add PA and break the machine.
>
> Deploying un
On 29-01-2012 10:50, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I just ask that upgrades don't break a working machine, caused by
> unneeded dependencies. If a studio used GNOME, than an upgrade shouldn't
> add PA and break the machine.
Deploying untested updates/upgrades on production machines is asking for
trouble,
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
>> > I'm sure all
>> > Linux installs MUST be ready to use out of the box for professional audio
>> > users. after all, the same is true for the other operating systems.
>
> I just ask that upgrades don't break a working machine, caused by
> un
> On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 18:13 +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> > Yes, why not generalize when a specific example is debunked?
About what kind of generalization are you talking? I'm serious, I don't
understand what you are talking about.
> > I'm sure all
> > Linux installs MUST be ready to use out of t
On 29 January 2012 12:33, Madhurya Kakati wrote:
> On 01/29/12 at 12:28pm, Thanasis Georgiou wrote:
>> I remember doing this, it was a problem with python. I think it wanted
>> python2 but it found python3, something like that. I couldn't really
>> understand the script, it was python inside bash
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 18:13 +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2012 5:46 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 07:22 +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> > > On Jan 29, 2012 3:29 AM, "Tom Gundersen" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf
> > > > wrote:
> >
On 01/29/12 at 12:28pm, Thanasis Georgiou wrote:
> I remember doing this, it was a problem with python. I think it wanted
> python2 but it found python3, something like that. I couldn't really
> understand the script, it was python inside bash so instead of
> spending years trying to fix it I moved
On 29 January 2012 12:12, Madhurya Kakati wrote:
> Hi,
> I am trying to compile android 4.0 with the help of an article I found
> online[1]. When I execute a command I get the following error:
>
> $ python2 ~/bin/repo init -u http://git.android-x86.org/manifest -b ics-x86
> File "/home/papul/and
On Jan 29, 2012 5:46 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 07:22 +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> > On Jan 29, 2012 3:29 AM, "Tom Gundersen" wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:30 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> > >
Hi,
I am trying to compile android 4.0 with the help of an article I found
online[1]. When I execute a command I get the following error:
$ python2 ~/bin/repo init -u http://git.android-x86.org/manifest -b ics-x86
File "/home/papul/android-x86/.repo/repo/main.py", line 149
except Download
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 10:46 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 07:22 +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> > On Jan 29, 2012 3:29 AM, "Tom Gundersen" wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:30 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote:
>
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 07:22 +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2012 3:29 AM, "Tom Gundersen" wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf
> > wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:30 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> > >> For what it's worth, PA and Jack have a protocol to peacefull
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Peter G Nikolic
wrote:
> Right now i have given up on the seperate /usr , can i safely move /usr/share
> to another drive and symlink it to /usr/share .
>
> I have it up and working again but the disk is showing 100% full /usr/share
> seems to be quite large
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