Re: [arch-general] linux 3.5 and resolution EDID problem

2012-08-31 Thread Alexandre Ferrando
On 31 August 2012 06:53, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: Hello all, After upgrading to linux-3.5.2, my monitor lost its highest resolution of 1360x768 and went to 1024x768 instead. Downgrading to linux-3.4.9 fixed the issue for the moment. There are some problems

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Mathieu R.
2012/8/31 Matthew Monaco dgbale...@0x01b.net: On 08/30/2012 07:30 PM, baker.stephe...@gmail.com wrote: On August 31, 2012 02:06:56 AM Mathieu R. wrote: Last update (10 minutes ago) asked me if y want switch from libsystemd to core/systemd. I agreed, and on next reboot, networkmanager was not

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 09:30 +0200, Mathieu R. wrote: 2012/8/31 Matthew Monaco dgbale...@0x01b.net: On 08/30/2012 07:30 PM, baker.stephe...@gmail.com wrote: On August 31, 2012 02:06:56 AM Mathieu R. wrote: Last update (10 minutes ago) asked me if y want switch from libsystemd to

[arch-general] LibreOffice 3.6.1-1 doesn't run.

2012-08-31 Thread fredbezies
Hello. I upgraded using testing repository LibreOffice 3.6.1-1... And I cannot test it, it doesn't fully start ! Bootscreen goes half way to load, and then, I got this message : Impossible de lancer l'application. exception occurred raising singleton

Re: [arch-general] Sudo arch wiki

2012-08-31 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Cmnd_Alias EDITS = /usr/bin/vim, /usr/bin/nano, /usr/bin/cat, /usr/bin/vi Cmnd_Alias ARCHLINUX = /usr/sbin/gparted, /usr/bin/pacman, /usr/bin/pacman-color root ALL = (ALL) ALL USER_NAME ALL = (ALL) ALL, NOPASSWD: WHEELER, NOPASSWD: PROCESSES, NOPASSWD: ARCHLINUX, NOPASSWD: EDITS

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: I don't understand Eliminate the daemons one by one from rc.conf. Start with dbus, which systemd handles very well without any action from you at all. How can I upgrade, but keep a running system? I believe that

Re: [arch-general] LibreOffice 3.6.1-1 doesn't run.

2012-08-31 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On 31 August 2012 11:05, fredbezies fredbez...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I upgraded using testing repository LibreOffice 3.6.1-1... And I cannot test it, it doesn't fully start ! Bootscreen goes half way to load, and then, I got this message : Impossible de lancer l'application. exception

Re: [arch-general] LibreOffice 3.6.1-1 doesn't run.

2012-08-31 Thread fredbezies
2012/8/31 Lukas Jirkovsky l.jirkov...@gmail.com: On 31 August 2012 11:05, fredbezies fredbez...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I upgraded using testing repository LibreOffice 3.6.1-1... And I cannot test it, it doesn't fully start ! Bootscreen goes half way to load, and then, I got this message :

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Thank you Tom :) On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 11:14 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: If you do not wish to switch to systemd yet, then no action is required. See [0] for some details. I'm not switching yet. First I'll test it in VBox, but at the moment I don't have time to do it, I need a stable Arch

[arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Thanos Zygouris
After upgrading systemd (189-3) and filesystem (2012.8-1) my locale isn't en_US.UTF-8 anymore. Instead, it defaults to C. # cat /etc/locale.conf: LOCALE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=C # locale LANG=C LC_CTYPE=C LC_NUMERIC=C LC_TIME=C LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY=C LC_MESSAGES=C LC_PAPER=C LC_NAME=C

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: IIUC the OP got issues regarding to networkmanager, while not switching to systemd. For the people not reading the forums: it seems the problem was with the order of daemons in rc.conf, and should be unrelated to

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Kazó Csaba
2012/8/31 Thanos Zygouris athanasios.zygou...@gmail.com After upgrading systemd (189-3) and filesystem (2012.8-1) my locale isn't en_US.UTF-8 anymore. Instead, it defaults to C. # cat /etc/locale.conf: LOCALE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=C # locale LANG=C LC_CTYPE=C LC_NUMERIC=C LC_TIME=C

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Thanos Zygouris athanasios.zygou...@gmail.com wrote: After upgrading systemd (189-3) and filesystem (2012.8-1) my locale isn't en_US.UTF-8 anymore. Instead, it defaults to C. # cat /etc/locale.conf: LOCALE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=C # locale LANG=C

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 11:34 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: IIUC the OP got issues regarding to networkmanager, while not switching to systemd. For the people not reading the forums: it seems the problem was with

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
2012/8/31 Thanos Zygouris athanasios.zygou...@gmail.com # cat /etc/locale.conf: LOCALE=en_US.UTF-8 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Kazó Csaba kazocs...@gmail.com wrote: LANG is the variable you should set in locale.conf. See

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Thanos Zygouris
On Fri 31 Aug 11:39, Kazó Csaba wrote: 2012/8/31 Thanos Zygouris athanasios.zygou...@gmail.com After upgrading systemd (189-3) and filesystem (2012.8-1) my locale isn't en_US.UTF-8 anymore. Instead, it defaults to C. # cat /etc/locale.conf: LOCALE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=C #

Re: [arch-general] Emacs window color broken after update to 24.2.1

2012-08-31 Thread Nick Lanham
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:21:27 +0200 Nick Lanham n...@afternight.org wrote: The emacs update seems to have broken something in the way emacs displays colors. The portion of the window where there is nothing is always displayed with a light grey tint. Screenshots: - starting with -q (i.e.

Re: [arch-general] Emacs window color broken after update to 24.2.1

2012-08-31 Thread Sujith
Nick Lanham wrote: Is no one else seeing this? It would be nice to know if I'm alone in having this problem or not. I don't see this problem - with 'emacs -q' or otherwise. (GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.11) of 2012-08-31 on nako) Sujith

Re: [arch-general] Emacs window color broken after update to 24.2.1

2012-08-31 Thread Igor Sosa Mayor
On 31 August 2012 12:11, Nick Lanham n...@afternight.org wrote: Is no one else seeing this? It would be nice to know if I'm alone in having this problem or not. I don't have this problem. But I have to say that the color of marking something has changed without my intervention. But it is

Re: [arch-general] Emacs window color broken after update to 24.2.1

2012-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 15:46 +0530, Sujith wrote: Nick Lanham wrote: Is no one else seeing this? It would be nice to know if I'm alone in having this problem or not. I don't see this problem - with 'emacs -q' or otherwise. (GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.11)

Re: [arch-general] Emacs window color broken after update to 24.2.1

2012-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 12:39 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 15:46 +0530, Sujith wrote: Nick Lanham wrote: Is no one else seeing this? It would be nice to know if I'm alone in having this problem or not. I don't see this problem - with 'emacs -q' or otherwise. (GNU

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Kevin Chadwick
IIUC the OP got issues regarding to networkmanager, while not switching to systemd. For the people not reading the forums: it seems the problem was with the order of daemons in rc.conf, and should be unrelated to systemd. For people not using systemd, this change should really not have

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Allan McRae
On 31/08/12 20:44, Kevin Chadwick wrote: IIUC the OP got issues regarding to networkmanager, while not switching to systemd. For the people not reading the forums: it seems the problem was with the order of daemons in rc.conf, and should be unrelated to systemd. For people not using

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: While the cause has been explained I think we are missing the Why or is it How. If dbus was out of order how come it worked under initscripts? I have honestly no idea why the setup used to work (it never should

[arch-general] gnome-shell performance problems

2012-08-31 Thread Pico Geyer
Hi all. I'm having a performance issue with gnome shell and I wonder if anyone can provide me with some advice. Gnome shell seems to be using a lot of my cpu resources. PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 949 pico 20 0 1923m 204m 21m S 203.3 5.4

Re: [arch-general] gnome-shell performance problems

2012-08-31 Thread Zhengyu Xu
Hi Pico, Have you tried to check your cpu usage after disabling all the gnome-shell-extensions? And how about the cpu usage when you run the command in tty rather than gnome-terminal? Regards, Z. On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 13:32 +0200, Pico Geyer wrote: Hi all. I'm having a performance issue

Re: [arch-general] gnome-shell performance problems

2012-08-31 Thread Pico Geyer
Hi Zhengyu, Thanks for your response. I was running a minimal set of extensions, but even after disabling all of them, there is no change. You mean a real tty (Ctrl - Alt - F1)? If so, when I run the command on that tty the problem is not present. Gnome shell only reached a maximum of 50% and

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Damjan Georgievski
While the cause has been explained I think we are missing the Why or is it How. If dbus was out of order how come it worked under initscripts? I have honestly no idea why the setup used to work (it never should have), and what made it stop working (nothing should have changed). Notice that

Re: [arch-general] gnome-shell performance problems

2012-08-31 Thread Damjan Georgievski
I'm having a performance issue with gnome shell and I wonder if anyone can provide me with some advice. ... I'm on a T510 Lenovo laptop with an updated Arch and I'm using the nouveau driver. Can you paste the output of (it should be 2 lines): glxinfo | grep render It should say direct

Re: [arch-general] gnome-shell performance problems

2012-08-31 Thread Pico Geyer
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Damjan Georgievski gdam...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having a performance issue with gnome shell and I wonder if anyone can provide me with some advice. ... I'm on a T510 Lenovo laptop with an updated Arch and I'm using the nouveau driver. Can you paste the

Re: [arch-general] gnome-shell performance problems

2012-08-31 Thread Jan Steffens
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Pico Geyer picoge...@gmail.com wrote: Hi damjan, Here we go: direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301) GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_AMD_draw_buffers_blend, Pico You're using software rendering. No wonder it's

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Tomás Acauan Schertel
My system was already properly configured, but after last update, everything is en_US. -- Tomás Schertel -- Linux Registered User #304838 Arch Linux User http://www.archlinux.org/ -- On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at

Re: [arch-general] gnome-shell performance problems

2012-08-31 Thread Pico Geyer
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Jan Steffens jan.steff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Pico Geyer picoge...@gmail.com wrote: Hi damjan, Here we go: direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301) GL_NV_conditional_render,

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 13:51 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: While the cause has been explained I think we are missing the Why or is it How. If dbus was out of order how come it worked under initscripts? I have honestly no idea why the setup used to work (it never should have), and

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Tomás Acauan Schertel tscher...@gmail.com wrote: My system was already properly configured, but after last update, everything is en_US. You can put your local in /etc/environment or in ~/.pam_environment. -- Sébastien Seblu Luttringer www.seblu.net

Re: [arch-general] gnome-shell performance problems

2012-08-31 Thread Pico Geyer
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Pico Geyer picoge...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Jan Steffens jan.steff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Pico Geyer picoge...@gmail.com wrote: Hi damjan, Here we go: direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string:

Re: [arch-general] gnome-shell performance problems

2012-08-31 Thread Jan Steffens
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Pico Geyer picoge...@gmail.com wrote: I thought nouveau-dri was mainly for opengl type acceleration. Is there something I can go read to clear this up? GNOME Shell uses OpenGL.

Re: [arch-general] linux 3.5 and resolution EDID problem

2012-08-31 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Friday 31 Aug 2012 9:13:30 AM Alexandre Ferrando wrote: It's an already reported bug, fix has landed in 3.6-rc3. See [ 0 ] for more info on the bug and patches to fix it. It will solve the display issue but you'll still see EDID reporting on dmesg PS: One of the patches will fail to apply

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Tomás Acauan Schertel
Both /etc/locale.conf and /etc/environment have this lines: LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=C And my system (LXDM + XFCE) keeps en_US. -- Tomás Schertel -- Linux Registered User #304838 Arch Linux User http://www.archlinux.org/

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread gt
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 03:30:43PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 13:51 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: And this is yet another example how initscripts are broken. I had a friend whose GDM was not coming up because it was starting too fast after dbus. As a last resort we

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Aug 31, 2012 5:10 PM, Tomás Acauan Schertel tscher...@gmail.com wrote: Both /etc/locale.conf and /etc/environment have this lines: LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=C And my system (LXDM + XFCE) keeps en_US. If you log in on the terminal (i.e. without starting X), do you get g the correct

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Tomás Acauan Schertel
Typing locale, I get this: [tomas@archbook ~]$ locale LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_TIME=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=C LC_PAPER=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_NAME=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=pt_BR.UTF-8

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Aug 31, 2012 5:48 PM, Tomás Acauan Schertel tscher...@gmail.com wrote: Typing locale, I get this: [tomas@archbook ~]$ locale LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_TIME=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=C

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 20:45 +0530, gt wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 03:30:43PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 13:51 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: And this is yet another example how initscripts are broken. I had a friend whose GDM was not coming up because it was

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread arielp
On 8/31/2012 11:10 AM, Tomás Acauan Schertel wrote: Both /etc/locale.conf and /etc/environment have this lines: LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=C And my system (LXDM + XFCE) keeps en_US. -- Tomás Schertel -- Linux Registered User #304838 Arch Linux

[arch-general] systemd.mount not authorized

2012-08-31 Thread Arno Gaboury
Dear list, I boot with systemd and startx. I can't open my USB disk with thunar (XFCE4 file manager) and get this message: Not autorized to perform operation. I understand as a simple user I can not mount it. How can I solve this issue? I couldn't find any clear answer. Thank you

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Tomás Acauan Schertel
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:55 PM, arielp ar...@drakkn.net wrote: On 8/31/2012 11:10 AM, Tomás Acauan Schertel wrote: Both /etc/locale.conf and /etc/environment have this lines: LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=C And my system (LXDM + XFCE) keeps en_US. -- Tomás Schertel

Re: [arch-general] systemd.mount not authorized

2012-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 18:12 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear list, I boot with systemd and startx. I can't open my USB disk with thunar (XFCE4 file manager) and get this message: Not autorized to perform operation. I understand as a simple user I can not mount it. How can I solve this

Re: [arch-general] systemd.mount not authorized

2012-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 18:24 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 18:12 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear list, I boot with systemd and startx. I can't open my USB disk with thunar (XFCE4 file manager) and get this message: Not autorized to perform operation. I

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:10:01 -0300 schrieb Tomás Acauan Schertel tscher...@gmail.com: Both /etc/locale.conf and /etc/environment have this lines: LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=C And my system (LXDM + XFCE) keeps en_US. No, it uses C, because Xfce unfortunately uses LC_MESSAGES, not LANG,

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Kevin Chadwick
It is disrespectful not to honor that initscripts is something good, even if there should be something better now. Don't listen, it isn't better, shell is awesome and so are init scripts though a top notch consensus would be good. I can point out multiple errors and wrong assumptions in just

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Kevin Chadwick
People are grumbling about this compatibility layer, and I might change/remove it at some point. The reason I still have not ripped it out is that I like the fact that your system will just work as before if you add init=/bin/systemd to the kernel command line. Without the compatibility layer

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 13:51 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: And this is yet another example how initscripts are broken. I had a friend whose GDM was not coming up because it was starting too fast after dbus. As a last resort we rearranged the DAEMONS and moved gdm as the last

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:14:24 -0300 schrieb Tomás Acauan Schertel tscher...@gmail.com: It was working right before last update. What changed? Nothing, unless you haven't changed your locale configuration or a package changed it, but then you would have had at least a *.pacnew file. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] systemd.mount not authorized

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Aug 31, 2012 6:13 PM, Arno Gaboury arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, I boot with systemd and startx. I can't open my USB disk with thunar (XFCE4 file manager) and get this message: Not autorized to perform operation. I understand as a simple user I can not mount it. How can

Re: [arch-general] LibreOffice 3.6.1-1 doesn't run.

2012-08-31 Thread Neil Perry
Just in case you haven't looked at the bug report. Installing clucene seems to fix the issue. Thanks, Neil

Re: [arch-general] systemd.mount not authorized

2012-08-31 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 31/08/12||18:24, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 18:12 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear list, I boot with systemd and startx. I can't open my USB disk with thunar (XFCE4 file manager) and get this message: Not autorized to perform operation. I understand as a

Re: [arch-general] LibreOffice 3.6.1-1 doesn't run.

2012-08-31 Thread fredbezies
2012/8/31 Neil Perry npe...@gmail.com: Just in case you haven't looked at the bug report. Installing clucene seems to fix the issue. Thanks, Neil I read it. Too bad this package is in optdepends, not depends. It will annoy a lot of people until this small bug is fixed. And also, you have to

Re: [arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)

2012-08-31 Thread Tomás Acauan Schertel
Maybe it's GTK related? I'm using Opera to write this email and it's OK, using pt_BR Google Chrome and LibreOffice are OK also. -- Tomás Schertel -- Linux Registered User #304838 Arch Linux User http://www.archlinux.org/

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Aug 31, 2012 6:31 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I will give one example. Lennart says come on who connects to sshd more than once a month. I can't believe he's never seen a sshd log with constant pass attempts even though passwords are disabled. You are misunderstanding

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Aug 31, 2012 6:31 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: People are grumbling about this compatibility layer, and I might change/remove it at some point. The reason I still have not ripped it out is that I like the fact that your system will just work as before if you add

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Aug 31, 2012 6:32 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 13:51 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: And this is yet another example how initscripts are broken. I had a friend whose GDM was not coming up because it was starting too fast after dbus. As a

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 17:30 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Be honest Tom, do you think it is less or more risky timewise for him to switch, right now? That's a good question. At the moment everything I really need, does work as it should work. If I switch, nothing can become better, but it could

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Aug 31, 2012 6:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 17:30 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Be honest Tom, do you think it is less or more risky timewise for him to switch, right now? That's a good question. At the moment everything I really need, does

Re: [arch-general] gnome-shell performance problems

2012-08-31 Thread Brandon Watkins
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Jan Steffens jan.steff...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Pico Geyer picoge...@gmail.com wrote: I thought nouveau-dri was mainly for opengl type acceleration. Is there something I can go read to clear this up? GNOME Shell uses OpenGL.

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Kevin Chadwick
I will give one example. Lennart says come on who connects to sshd more than once a month. I can't believe he's never seen a sshd log with constant pass attempts even though passwords are disabled. You are misunderstanding the sshd example. How? Systemds method would seem more

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Kevin Chadwick
People are grumbling about this compatibility layer, and I might change/remove it at some point. The reason I still have not ripped it out is that I like the fact that your system will just work as before if you add init=/bin/systemd to the kernel command line. Without the

Re: [arch-general] systemd-journald-syslog-ng

2012-08-31 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Arno Gaboury arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, I finally managed to boot safely with systemd. I am still wondering if journald is correctly set up. Until now, syslog-ng is STILL unabled. Following the wiki, I changed the line in syslog-ng.conf from:

[arch-general] moving custom hooks to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
Hello list, I tried booting with systemd and two custom hooks I have that create the /var directory on tmpfs didn't work. Google doesn't help here and my experience with systemd is in its infancy, so is there specific action I should take? My custom hooks are set to run during

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: People are grumbling about this compatibility layer, and I might change/remove it at some point. The reason I still have not ripped it out is that I like the fact that your system will just work as before if

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Aug 31, 2012 7:47 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I will give one example. Lennart says come on who connects to sshd more than once a month. I can't believe he's never seen a sshd log with constant pass attempts even though passwords are disabled. You are

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Aug 31, 2012 7:47 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Isn't getting rid of the compat layer going to be more work for some (not too much to ask) than those who are grumbling simply commenting out the DAEMONS line? Ah, got it. There is slightly more to it than that. The way it is

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread gt
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 06:58:02PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Aug 31, 2012 6:32 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Will this be an issue for him if he switches to full systemd as it has removed inittab Yes, inittab is ignored. It would be trivial to add support for it via