Re: [arch-general] mc - why not alias mc-wrapper.sh as default

I retract my smug remark, for some reason I recalled mc as a file editor. I must be thinking of QBASIC (blue terminal interface). On Friday, May 2, 2014, Kyle Bassett wrote: > alias mc='vim' works really well for me! > > :-P > > Just make sure you have a solid syntax highlighter installed, cu

Re: [arch-general] mc - why not alias mc-wrapper.sh as default

alias mc='vim' works really well for me! :-P Just make sure you have a solid syntax highlighter installed, custom or otherwise. On Thursday, May 1, 2014, David C. Rankin wrote: > All, > > midnight commander provides a convenient script that allows exit to the > present working directory of

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on aWindows8 UEFI laptop

I am boot the arch May 1 2014 iso off of a usb flash drive. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Doug Newgard wrote: > On 2014-05-01 20:18, Mark Lee wrote: > >> Salutations, >> >> If you set up your efistub correctly, you will be able to boot Arch or >> Windows using the Uefi boot manager, same sy

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on aWindows8 UEFI laptop

On 2014-05-01 20:18, Mark Lee wrote: Salutations, If you set up your efistub correctly, you will be able to boot Arch or Windows using the Uefi boot manager, same system as how you get the option to boot off a USB stick. UEFI removes the needs for boot managers. Regards, Man k -Original Me

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on aWindows8 UEFI laptop

Salutations, What are you booting the Arch Iso off of? Regards, Mark -Original Message- From: "Alan E. Davis" Sent: ‎5/‎1/‎2014 9:09 PM To: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" Subject: Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on aWindows8 UEFI laptop I have never se

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on aWindows8 UEFI laptop

Salutations, If you set up your efistub correctly, you will be able to boot Arch or Windows using the Uefi boot manager, same system as how you get the option to boot off a USB stick. UEFI removes the needs for boot managers. Regards, Man k -Original Message- From: "Alan E. Davis" Se

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows8 UEFI laptop

I have never seen an option to boot the Arch iso using eufi boot. I may not have said that I want to dual boot. I do need to do so. If I boot directly back into Arch, will there be an option do dual boot? (Actually triple boot for the time being.) Alan Davis On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Ma

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows8 UEFI laptop

Salutations, Okay. Try starting ove again. Boot into the arch iso using uefi boot (preferably but not necessary). Then set up your partitions (root, home). For boot, mount the windows EFI system partition as /boot. Then install the system. You won't need to install grub or gummiboot since you c

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

Then I stand corrected. Thank you for pointing this out. FOr me, the simpler the better. I'll try to deal with it, though. Alan On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: > On 01/05/14 08:06 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > > I don't understand what is the entry, or fallback entry, or "

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 08:06 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > I don't understand what is the entry, or fallback entry, or "run the > entry." I'm sorry. > > I'm going to try again later. In fact, I may take the undesireable step of > installing from Manjaro or whatever is the shortcut way to install Arch > Linux

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows8 UEFI laptop

Salutations, In these cases, I usually whip out a copy of refind-efi on cd and boot that via uefi. Refind-efi now detects kernels in /boot so it may be able to detect the Arch and Ubuntu kernels. This would allow you to boot the kernels into uefi mode and run efibootmgr. Regards, Mark -Or

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

I don't understand what is the entry, or fallback entry, or "run the entry." I'm sorry. I'm going to try again later. In fact, I may take the undesireable step of installing from Manjaro or whatever is the shortcut way to install Arch Linux these days. On the one hand, I don't care to learn ab

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 07:40 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > I took a chance, and nothing happened. I installed gummiboot on /boot, > where the kernel was. But I didn't move the ubuntu kernel over. > > In the end, Windows still booted, and I was able to get back to a boot menu > from there, and boot ubuntu. N

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

I took a chance, and nothing happened. I installed gummiboot on /boot, where the kernel was. But I didn't move the ubuntu kernel over. In the end, Windows still booted, and I was able to get back to a boot menu from there, and boot ubuntu. Not Arch. Yet. Thank you for now. Alan On Thu,

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

Running gdisk, this message: Found valid GPT with protective MBR: using GPT. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > I saw no options. The iso image on the USB drive booted without any > problem or selection. DOes it matter that this is a May 1 2014 > installation iso? > > Alan

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 06:56 PM, Mark Lee wrote: > > Salutations, > > You need to boot into UEFI mode. So when you're loading the Arch Linux > ISO, make sure you select to boot into UEFI mode (usually an option in > the boot menu) > > Regards, > Mark You can do this without being booted into EFI mode, sinc

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

I saw no options. The iso image on the USB drive booted without any problem or selection. DOes it matter that this is a May 1 2014 installation iso? Alan On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Mark Lee wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 05/01/2014 06:54 PM, Alan E. Da

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/01/2014 06:54 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > I am now walking through the install step by step. Initially, it is > suggested (in the Beginner's Guide) to test whether efivars is mounted. I > ran > > mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

I wonder what Ubuntu is doing, then. Whether it will be incompatible. A On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > I am now walking through the install step by step. Initially, it is > suggested (in the Beginner's Guide) to test whether efivars is mounted. I > ran > > mount -t

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/01/2014 06:50 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: > On 01/05/14 06:40 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: >> Hello: >> >> The BIOS_GRUB partition was installed by Ubuntu, I think, without any help >> from me. >> >> I am trying to understand the next step. >> >> I hav

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

I am now walking through the install step by step. Initially, it is suggested (in the Beginner's Guide) to test whether efivars is mounted. I ran mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars And got this message: mount: mount point /sys.efivars does not exist. I don't knolw wheth

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 06:40 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > Hello: > > The BIOS_GRUB partition was installed by Ubuntu, I think, without any help > from me. > > I am trying to understand the next step. > > I have to reboot into that Arch install, and walk back through it. When I > get to the point of needing

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 06:45 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > What is the "EFISTUB bug"? > > Alan The kernel's EFISTUB booting support is broken on some hardware, possibly due to buggy firmware requiring workarounds or perhaps because of remaining bugs in the kernel. It does work on most hardware though, especia

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 06:41 PM, Delcypher wrote: > On 1 May 2014 23:35, Daniel Micay wrote: >> On 01/05/14 06:28 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: >>> After already chrooting, during the Arch installation process, I saw some >>> information that suggested to use a command, as follows: >>> >>> mount -t efivarfs efiva

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

What is the "EFISTUB bug"? Alan On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > I'm staying tuned. > > Alan > > > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Delcypher wrote: > >> On 1 May 2014 23:35, Daniel Micay wrote: >> > On 01/05/14 06:28 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: >> >> After already chrooti

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

I'm staying tuned. Alan On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Delcypher wrote: > On 1 May 2014 23:35, Daniel Micay wrote: > > On 01/05/14 06:28 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > >> After already chrooting, during the Arch installation process, I saw > some > >> information that suggested to use a command,

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 1 May 2014 23:35, Daniel Micay wrote: > On 01/05/14 06:28 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: >> After already chrooting, during the Arch installation process, I saw some >> information that suggested to use a command, as follows: >> >> mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars > > You don'

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

Hello: The BIOS_GRUB partition was installed by Ubuntu, I think, without any help from me. I am trying to understand the next step. I have to reboot into that Arch install, and walk back through it. When I get to the point of needing a boot manager, I will install gummiboot. Give it a try. Th

[arch-general] Fwd: Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

> Here is a some information from the gdisk listing: > >Nbr Size Code Name > -++--+- > 1 1000.0 MiB 2700 > 2 260.0 MiBEF00 EFI system partition > 3 128.0 MiB0C01Microsoft reserved part > 4 49

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 06:28 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > After already chrooting, during the Arch installation process, I saw some > information that suggested to use a command, as follows: > > mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars You don't need to do this, so I'm not sure where you're ge

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 06:31 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > Do I need to install a special kernel? > > Thank you for the advice. > > Alan No, you need to install gummiboot. That's all. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

Do I need to install a special kernel? Thank you for the advice. Alan On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: > On 01/05/14 06:20 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > > I see another level of complexity here, in a statement on a page about > > Gummiboot on the wiki: > > > > * Warning: *Gumm

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 06:20 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > I see another level of complexity here, in a statement on a page about > Gummiboot on the wiki: > > * Warning: *Gummiboot simply provides a boot menu for EFISTUB kernels. In > case you have issues booting EFISTUB kernels like in > FS#33745

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

After already chrooting, during the Arch installation process, I saw some information that suggested to use a command, as follows: mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars It was ineffective, so after noticing a note that it should be done inside and outside of the chroot environm

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

I see another level of complexity here, in a statement on a page about Gummiboot on the wiki: * Warning: *Gummiboot simply provides a boot menu for EFISTUB kernels. In case you have issues booting EFISTUB kernels like in FS#33745, you should use a boot loader

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 06:15 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > Ubuntu's kernel is on the / partition. Would I move it to the ESP > partition, in that case? > > And I will mount that partition on /mnt/boot ? > > I have never used gummiboot. Since the Arch system is already to go, but > not yet with a boot managem

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

Ubuntu's kernel is on the / partition. Would I move it to the ESP partition, in that case? And I will mount that partition on /mnt/boot ? I have never used gummiboot. Since the Arch system is already to go, but not yet with a boot management setup, I should manually move that kernel to the ESP

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 06:02 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > This looks interesting, and I am tempted to walk into the deep water. It > raises some questions. > > Will gummiboot or refind also find the Ubuntu partition? You should use the ESP (EFI system partition) to store all of the kernels. The loader (gummi

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

This looks interesting, and I am tempted to walk into the deep water. It raises some questions. Will gummiboot or refind also find the Ubuntu partition? The original partition structure of the machine there were four or five partitions, and another one popped up in the higher end of the disk.

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

On 01/05/14 05:07 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > This is insanity... The first time I have encountered the much maligned > Micro$oft UEFI / Secure Boot adventure. On my new Thinkpad Yoga, with a > Wacom active digitizer and pen. > > Ubuntu was a walk in the park. I installed Ubuntu naively, alongs

Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

Oops, I used the wrong account. Forwarded Message From: Ralf Mardorf To: arch-general@archlinux.org Subject: Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 23:18:49 +0200 Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 I didn't read it, but

[arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop

This is insanity... The first time I have encountered the much maligned Micro$oft UEFI / Secure Boot adventure. On my new Thinkpad Yoga, with a Wacom active digitizer and pen. Ubuntu was a walk in the park. I installed Ubuntu naively, alongside the new Windows 8.1 laptop. It took maybe an hou

[arch-general] mc - why not alias mc-wrapper.sh as default

All, midnight commander provides a convenient script that allows exit to the present working directory of mc instead of returning you to the directory in which mc was started. All that is required is a simple alias: alias mc='. /usr/lib/mc/mc-wrapper.sh' This simply invokes mc with the -P

Re: [arch-general] linux 3.14.2-1 and toolchain

This is preventing the ZFS packages from building in AUR. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Christian Hesse wrote: > Hello everybody, > > linux 3.14.2-1 has been compiled with new toolchain, gcc 4.9.0 explicitly. > Now that it is in [core] compiling modules breaks... The new toolchain should > be m

[arch-general] linux 3.14.2-1 and toolchain

Hello everybody, linux 3.14.2-1 has been compiled with new toolchain, gcc 4.9.0 explicitly. Now that it is in [core] compiling modules breaks... The new toolchain should be moved as soon as possible. -- main(a){char*c=/*Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH" "CX:;",b;for(a/*

Re: [arch-general] Optimizing boot

On Wednesday 30 Apr 2014 23:26:48 Rodrigo Rivas wrote: > Although the original problem has already been solved, I'll post my > trick to debug this kind of issues with systemd: > > * Before doing the thing that causes the problem run as root > `systemctl start debug-shell`. If the problem is in the