Re: [arch-general] Anything to manage user daemons?

2011-06-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:30:42 +0930 Ty wrote: > > On 22/06/2011, at 7:39 PM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > > yuck. > > if you just want to manage daemons running as your own user, su and > > sudo shouldn't even be involved. > > > > On Wed, 22 Jun

Re: [arch-general] Anything to manage user daemons?

2011-06-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
yuck. if you just want to manage daemons running as your own user, su and sudo shouldn't even be involved. On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:05:35 +0100 Owain Sutton wrote: > How about using /etc/rc.d/ scripts with 'su user' to start the > program as the relevant user (as per the rtorrent wiki suggestion,

Re: [arch-general] Anything to manage user daemons?

2011-06-20 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:19:47 +0700 An Nguyen wrote: > Try these guys > supervisord > daemontools > > :-) those look neat. I wonder how they compare to each other and to systemd (which is designed to deal with system- and user level daemons as well) Dieter

Re: [arch-general] On module blacklisting

2011-06-11 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:55:35 +0200 Philipp Überbacher wrote: > Excerpts from Tom Gundersen's message of 2011-06-11 02:22:56 +0200: > > Hi Magnus, > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Magnus Therning > > wrote: > > > 1. As I read it, it's only blacklisting that's affected, is that > > >   c

Re: [arch-general] Myths and reality about cronie

2011-04-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:53:31 +0300 Ionut Biru wrote: > On 04/22/2011 07:23 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > Am Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:07:35 -0400 > > schrieb Kaiting Chen: > > > >> First of all the cronie in [community-testing] is compiled with > >> --enable-anacron. It installs not only an /etc/crontab b

Re: [arch-general] Leandro Costa wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn

2011-04-13 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:02:04 +0200 Øyvind Heggstad wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:30:12 + (UTC) > Leandro Costa via LinkedIn wrote: > > > LinkedIn > > Leandro Costa requested to add you as a connection on > > LinkedIn: -- > > > > Gergely

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:45:29 -0400 Kaiting Chen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > > > On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different way > > > without any further discussions. There's a need for installing one >

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:16:46 +0200 Heiko Baums wrote: > On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different way > without any further discussions. There's a need for installing one > cron daemon, but no need for a default cron daemon. It's pretty the > same issue as with the bootloaders. T

Re: [arch-general] base stuff (was: Change Arch's default crond)

2011-04-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:22:14 -0600 Thomas S Hatch wrote: > I think that Arch would benefit from inducing SELinux as an option > because it expands the venues available for Arch Linux systems, I > also think that inclusion in base of SELinux requires a minimal > amount of maintenance and SELinux is

Re: [arch-general] [systemd] v23 released, heads up

2011-04-05 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 20:23:21 -0400 Dave Reisner wrote: > Hey all, > > A heads up for anyone using systemd, I've just pushed the latest tag > to [community-testing]. It's going to be hanging out there until we at > least see udev-167. More notably, there's been a fairly silly change > [1] in place

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Default Bootloader for AIF

2011-03-28 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:06:57 -0400 David Campbell wrote: > Excerpts from Dieter Plaetinck's message of 2011-03-27 10:01:35 -0400: > > If I want to support GPT I will need decent utilities from upstream. > > I know about parted and sgdisk but I need a toolset for: > > - interactive partitioning >

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Default Bootloader for AIF

2011-03-27 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:31:13 +0530 "KESHAV P.R." wrote: > This is really question about users who do not care about what > bootloader they have in their system and simply select the 1st one in > the menu. Especially true in case of newbies (most of them). I don't care if users break their instal

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Default Bootloader for AIF

2011-03-27 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:17:02 +0530 "KESHAV P.R." wrote: > Hi all, > I wanted to share my views on this whole discussion. Many > people don't know the actual features and problems with individual > boot-loaders. > > GRUB-Legacy > > - Kinda KISS (actually syslinux is more KISS) > - Easy

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.38-2

2011-03-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:40:58 +0100 Thomas Bächler wrote: > We used to have lots of patches in the kernel (between 5 and 15), so a > single -ARCH patch was created. > Now, the number of patches is fairly small and I am thinking maybe we > should go back to single patches. > > Optimally, we could

Re: [arch-general] Web sites down?

2011-03-18 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:07:02 +0100 Cédric Girard wrote: > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: > > > The mailinglist was down also, so reporting it here doesn't help that > > much. > > > > Understood. Won't do it again. ;-) > is that the conlusion? if the website is down, do

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux support in puppet

2011-03-14 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:26:08 -0600 Thomas S Hatch wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:58:19 -0600 > > Thomas S Hatch wrote: > > > > > But regardless, this should support the Arch style runle

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux support in puppet

2011-03-14 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:58:19 -0600 Thomas S Hatch wrote: > But regardless, this should support the Arch style runlevel. maybe... in theory it's possible that in a month we switch to systemd as official init system. this will probably not happen (soon), but just saying. > I do think that if it

Re: [arch-general] 2010.05 iso images problem?

2011-03-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:36:51 +0100 didier gaumet wrote: > The one reason of this problem I can think of is that being > absent-minded, I forgot about somehow failing to upgrade properly to > 2.6.37 after having *successfully* installed 2.6.33 from the iso. > > Please guys accept my apologies for

Re: [arch-general] 2010.05 iso images problem?

2011-03-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:16:22 +0100 didier gaumet wrote: > What puzzles me is to > find a 2.6.37 kernel installed by this image: if I am not wrong, 2.6.37 > was out in 2011.01, eight months after the 2010.05 iso was out... did you do a netinstall? that fetches the latest packages from the mirror..

Re: [arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-20 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:58:23 +0100 Tom Willemsen wrote: > > well I think it would be best to have a table that shows for each value of > > each criterion, the last succesful state (if known) > > > > so, for example: > > > > criterion last known state > > Arch: > > - i686 OK on 201

Re: [arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-19 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:44:22 +0100 Tom Willemsen wrote: > Hey Dieter, > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 05:56:47PM +0100, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > Hey Tom, what's the status? > I'm very sorry, I haven't been able to get to it yet, I've only been > able t

Re: [arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-19 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
Hey Tom, what's the status? If you have any questions, just let me know how I can help. If you're not interested anymore, then let me know also, then I can search for someone else :) Dieter

[arch-general] netconf network configuration management system

2011-02-14 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
anyone ever looked at http://netconf.alioth.debian.org/ ? looks interesting. I know a bunch of us are working on network management tools (like netcfg and replacements for it), but that one seems to have a good philosophy and should be distro independent. Dieter

Re: [arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-10 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
Note that I've been talking with Tom on Fosdem, and we already privately mailed about this. In a mail he asked "why not let AIF create a textfile automatically, then just submit that textfile to the webapp?" I think that's a good idea: - less manual work for the user. - no webform needed (but we n

Re: [arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-10 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:47:51 +0100 Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 10.02.2011 10:39, schrieb Tom Willemsen: > > On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 07:40:24PM -0500, Kaiting Chen wrote: > >> Hey I might be able to do it. But it's not going to look pretty > >> because I'm not a designer. --Kaiting. > > How is this

[arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
Hi, for Arch releng, we have recently started automatically building test builds (http://releng.archlinux.org/isos/). These images are built from the archiso and aif git repositories, and the current state of the repos. The idea is that people can test these images, and once in a while, I will p

[arch-general] AIF talk at Fosdem 2011

2011-02-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
I gave an AIF (related) talk at Fosdem this year. For more info, video and slides: http://dieter.plaetinck.be/can_we_build_a_simple_cross-distribution_installation_framework.html Dieter

Re: [arch-general] Question on repository

2011-01-25 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:21:28 +0200 Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 01/25/2011 11:14 PM, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: > > ti, 2011-01-25 kello 22:13 +0100, Grzegorz Rumiński kirjoitti: > > > >> Hi lads, > >> > >> Can I selectively install apackage from [testing] repo or do I > >> have to uncomment it in pacma

Re: [arch-general] Robson Peixoto invited you to Dropbox

2011-01-24 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:32:16 + Mauro Santos wrote: > I guess they do (or they should, never tried it myself) and I also > believe that they ask for the email's password before they can spam > mail everyone. > To add insult to injury some sites require (or used to require) an > email address a

Re: [arch-general] Robson Peixoto invited you to Dropbox

2011-01-24 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:12:06 + Peter Lewis wrote: > It seems to be that > either someone uploads their entire addressbook to a random website > (doesn't seem like a clever idea) or else gives the website their > email password (very bad idea). It's probably the easiest way to invite your (le

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:36:45 +0100 Jelle van der Waa wrote: > Secondly on the forums probably the trolls won't reply ;) afaik forums contains more trolls then mailing list. Dieter

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-21 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 03:16:34 +0100 Jan Steffens wrote: > Arch's init system is completely ignorant of dependencies. Depends on how you look at it, I guess. I see the explicit ordering and backgrounding of daemons (done by the user) in rc.conf as a (very crude) form of "dependency/parallelisation

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all

2011-01-19 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:20:58 +0100 Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 19.01.2011 08:08, schrieb Allan McRae: > > If we want to be really pedantic about dependencies, we should list > > _ALL_ dependencies and not remove the ones that are dependencies of > > dependencies. > > Why don't we just do the corr

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all

2011-01-19 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:08:27 +1000 Allan McRae wrote: > On 19/01/11 15:19, Kaiting Chen wrote: > > Okay everyone, every time I ask I get a different answer. According > > to Dziedzic and Allan 'glibc' does *not* belong in 'depends'. Also > > Dziedzic votes that *no* package in 'base' should be in

Re: [arch-general] Alex Matviychuk wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn

2011-01-18 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:25:34 +1030 "Ty John (sand_man)" wrote: > On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 08:46 +, Alex Matviychuk wrote: > > LinkedIn > > > > > > > > General, > > > > I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. > LOL major fail Captain awesome! Dieter

Re: [arch-general] Pkgtools v22

2011-01-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:29:59 -0500 Daenyth Blank wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm happy to announce that after a far-too-long wait, the latest > version of pkgtools is released! This version is a complete rewrite > from the ground up. The slow parts have been rewritten in C for a huge > speed increase,

Re: [arch-general] Syslinux Installer / Update Script - Testers Needed

2011-01-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:52:03 -0500 Matthew Gyurgyik wrote: > Hello Community, > > Over the last few weeks I have been working on Syslinux support for > the installer. With the help Thomas and Dieter I am nearing the > completion of this project. As part of this project, I have written a > script

Re: [arch-general] Linux / mkinitcpio / vbox bug: bad swap file entry

2011-01-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:46:24 +0100 Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > while testing new images, I get this: > http://users.edpnet.be/dieter/vbox-or-kernel-or-mkinitcpio-bug.png > > the error messages show up in google results and seem to be bugs in > the Linux swap code and/or drivers. >

[arch-general] Linux / mkinitcpio / vbox bug: bad swap file entry

2011-01-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
while testing new images, I get this: http://users.edpnet.be/dieter/vbox-or-kernel-or-mkinitcpio-bug.png the error messages show up in google results and seem to be bugs in the Linux swap code and/or drivers. interestingly, at first aif/dialog/mkinitcpio/find just keep running, but after a while

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:56:24 -0500 Dave Reisner wrote: > I highly doubt that this was _ever_ a question of size in the repos. > More likely, It's a matter of time vs. gain for a small number of > volunteers. If you're a user who knows that they want a particular > exotic filesystem that isn't wide

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:30:03 +0100 Heiko Baums wrote: > Also the netinstall iso can only install from [core] as > far as I know. not entirely correct, but that would be off-topic. > But on the other hand every filesystem related package has to be > removed from (base), while AIF should then be a

Re: [arch-general] [RFC] patches to initscripts

2010-12-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 01:10:12 +0100 Thomas Bächler wrote: > The problem is: If blkid finds more than one valid signature, it will > not return anything, and we will mistakenly believe that there is no > file system (and happily overwrite the drive). This part of > initscripts is giving me a headac

Re: [arch-general] Acceptable for AIF to copy files?

2010-11-21 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:06:10 -0500 Matthew Gyurgyik wrote: > Hello > > I want to add extlinux support in AIF. However, unlike grub, where > grub-install takes care of everything, extlinux > requires /boot/syslinux to be created and some files > from /usr/lib/syslinux to be copied to /boot/sysli

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-09 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
FWIW: I've gone through the archives and found multiple threads about our cron discussions. http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2009-September/ http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2010-January (esp. http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2010-Ja

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] away Nov. 15-23 (to NYC)

2010-11-04 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 10:54:43 -0400 David Rosenstrauch wrote: > I work near Penn Station. > > Let's take this off-list. > > DR Allright, cool that there are some people interested in meeting up! I will contact you guys off-list. If anyone else would like to join some fellow Archers in NYC for

Re: [arch-general] Ugh.. It's Official -- OpenOffice is forked -- LibreOffice

2010-09-29 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:24:36 -0500 "David C. Rankin" wrote: > Guys, > > For those that rely on OpenOffice, and for those that prepare > the packages, it's official, OpenOffice forked as of Sept. 28, 2010. > Here is the press release: > > http://www.documentfoundation.org/contact/tdf_relea

Re: [arch-general] Old "news"

2010-09-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:20:29 +0530 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:05 PM, 甘露(Gan Lu) > wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Mike Sampson > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:28 PM, jesse jaara > >> wrote: > >>> Did anyone else revice some old maiöing list me

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.5-1

2010-09-21 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:44:52 +0200 Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Latest kernel is in testing, > please signoff for both arches. > > greetings > tpowa Signoff i686 lvm/encrypt this kernel fixes Alan's[1] big sata_sil breakage, making my system boot again. ( see https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug

Re: [arch-general] "$startdir/src", "$startdir/pkg" and "|| return 1" in official packages

2010-09-17 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:07:30 +0200 Lukas Fleischer wrote: > > Anyway, whats the rush? They will change eventually. There should > > be no (or very few) $startdir/{src,pkg} in [core]. > > As I already said at the beginning: > > > Although this isn't really significant... I was just curious :)

Re: [arch-general] distributed bugtracking?

2010-09-10 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:01:43 -0500 C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Philipp Überbacher > wrote: > > Excerpts from Dieter Plaetinck's message of 2010-09-08 21:47:40 > > +0200: > >> anyone knows this? http://bugseverywhere.org/be/show/HomePage > >> > >> the concept looks

[arch-general] distributed bugtracking?

2010-09-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
anyone knows this? http://bugseverywhere.org/be/show/HomePage the concept looks great, although i don't know anything about the implementation/usage. other then the advantages they list, I think something like this can be useful for downstream<->upstream communication. (ie someone reports a bug i

Re: [arch-general] Something is wrong with xbindkeys

2010-08-29 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:52:12 +0800 (CST) 大熊 wrote: > I use xbindkeys under kde4 (start xbindkeys with kde's autorun), add > some hotkeys: win+a, win+c, win+h, win+j, ... When kde4.4, All are OK. > Few days ago I upgraded to kde4.5 , So something is wrong: When I > just enter desktop, some keys( w

Re: [arch-general] Interactive boot mode like in Gentoo

2010-08-27 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:02:43 +1100 "joker-...@yandex.ru" wrote: > > What do you think about it? Need to be in Arch? > > During booting before starting daemons appears message: > > "Press I to enter interactive boot mode" > > Interactive boot allows to select action for each daemon such "start

Re: [arch-general] Unificate login credentials in Arch's website

2010-08-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 09:58:15 +0100 Magnus Therning wrote: > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 09:35, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 11:23:49 +0300 > > jesse jaara wrote: > > > >> 2010/8/3 Magnus Therning > >> > > >>

Re: [arch-general] Unificate login credentials in Arch's website

2010-08-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 11:23:49 +0300 jesse jaara wrote: > 2010/8/3 Magnus Therning > > > > One way to solve it would be to add a fourth set of credentials :-) > > For instance OpenID. I never understood why there is a need for openid when there are client ssl certificates. I never got why ssl cli

Re: [arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 01:00:09 -0500 "David C. Rankin" wrote: > Well sometimes the stupid ones among us don't always catch > that dovecot is being updated when it is one of 73+ updates that take > place. But we 'do' always catch the failure to copy to sent -- > later :p > > Seriously,

Re: [arch-general] Image my installed Arch into a USB pendrive

2010-08-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 10:43:03 +0300 jesse jaara wrote: > 2010/8/3 Martín Cigorraga > > > Hi, > > > > is possible to image my current Arch system into a USB pendrive and > > use it from there? > > Many thanks! > > > > Martín > > > > It is possible you will have to reformat your pendrive to use >

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-02 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:08:50 +0200 Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:31:47 +0200 > schrieb Pierre Chapuis : > > > Just for information, the opposite point of view recently came up on > > the suckless mailing-list: > > http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1007/5256.html > > > > I prefer Arch's

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-02 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:31:47 +0200 Pierre Chapuis wrote: > On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:58:00 +0200, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:46:33 +0200 > > Heiko Baums wrote: > > > >> I don't think that nilfs-utils should be moved to the base group

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:46:33 +0200 Heiko Baums wrote: > I don't think that nilfs-utils should be moved to the base group. I > agree with moving it to [core] but not to base, because base is > assumed to be installed on every computer and packages in the base > group are usually not listed in the d

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:47:24 -0700 Alex Matviychuk wrote: > I just spent some time setting up my new laptop with an SSD to use > NILFS2 as its root filesystem and I'm very pleased with the > performance. > > In an effort to get better support for NILFS2 in arch I've added a > request to move nil

Re: [arch-general] [PATCH 1/1] Make umounting filesystems much more paranoid.

2010-07-11 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:20:39 -0500 Victor Lowther wrote: > On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > > fwiw in AIF I do something similar (see > > http://github.com/Dieterbe/aif/blob/master/src/core/libs/lib-blockdevices-filesystems.sh#L457 > >

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] System update on all Arch Servers

2010-07-11 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:48:45 +0700 Emmanuel Benisty wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Thomas Bächler > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I -Syu'd and rebooted all our servers, let me know if there are any > > problems. > > > > > > no idea if it's related or if I missed something but abs'ing yes

Re: [arch-general] [PATCH 1/1] Make umounting filesystems much more paranoid.

2010-07-11 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
fwiw in AIF I do something similar (see http://github.com/Dieterbe/aif/blob/master/src/core/libs/lib-blockdevices-filesystems.sh#L457) (but there i use a text file containing all mountpoints) The interesting thing is, to find the order in which you should mount or (or umount) blockdevices can be f

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Inclusion of wvdial in the ISO

2010-06-27 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:16:58 +0800 Ray Rashif wrote: > On 27 June 2010 17:35, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > So, what? > > we better include ppp and not wvdial? > > No, it will definitely help if it's included - you just have to make > an exception and try to f

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Inclusion of wvdial in the ISO

2010-06-27 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
So, what? we better include ppp and not wvdial? Dieter

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Inclusion of wvdial in the ISO

2010-06-26 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:22:39 -0600 jwbirdsong wrote: > On 06/25/2010 11:54 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Recently I've been going to my friends' house and installing arch > > on their boxes. Some of them had high speed wireless dialup > > internet (3.1 megabytes/s is the max) w

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: AIF through proxy

2010-05-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 22 May 2010 12:51:39 +0200 "Andre \"Osku\" Schmidt" wrote: > now i only wonder what would be the best way and place to save these > variables in the installed system ? are you saying the target system should always use the proxies, for all users? maybe write the variables into /etc/profi

Re: [arch-general] AIF through proxy

2010-05-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 22 May 2010 02:04:41 +0200 "Andre \"Osku\" Schmidt" wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > On Fri, 21 May 2010 22:41:12 +0200 > > "Andre \"Osku\" Schmidt" wrote: > > > >> &g

Re: [arch-general] AIF through proxy

2010-05-21 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 21 May 2010 22:41:12 +0200 "Andre \"Osku\" Schmidt" wrote: > >> just gives me the usage info, without any > >> errors... and also the "Invalid URL scheme" errors that i see in > >> tty7 are nowhere to find in /var/log/* > > > > what i would do in a case like this is just monitor the outpu

Re: [arch-general] AIF through proxy

2010-05-21 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 21 May 2010 22:19:18 +0200 "Andre \"Osku\" Schmidt" wrote: > Hello Arch, > > is anyone using the arch installer with squid proxy ? > (or any other cache proxy) > > i'm again so close my goal that it makes me nervous :) > > - squid installed on the host machine, 192.168.0.35:3128 > - vb

Re: [arch-general] final final testing images

2010-05-17 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 17 May 2010 23:55:57 +0200 Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 17.05.2010 23:36, schrieb Fons Adriaensen: > > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 05:17:28PM +0200, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > > >> I built new images, dated 2010.05.16 (aka "final final images" ;)) >

Re: [arch-general] final release candidate images for testing

2010-05-17 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 17 May 2010 00:25:24 +0200 Dries De Smet wrote: > I'm sorry if I caused anyone work over this, but I must have been > sleepy, I saw the link to the images, downloaded the first netinstall > I saw & tested it, not realising it was the new image, but the one > from april :-( . > > Feel a b

Re: [arch-general] final final testing images

2010-05-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 16 May 2010 20:12:32 +0200 Karol Babioch wrote: > On Sunday 16 May 2010 17:17:28 Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > So right now, these two things are needed: > > * confirmation that archlinux-2010.05.16-core-x86_64.iso boots fine. > > * confirmation that wireless cards are

Re: [arch-general] final final testing images

2010-05-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 16 May 2010 23:28:24 +0800 Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > Would like to help testing it out, but my weekend internet (home > connection) sucks, and by the time I get into the office it may be > done already. In any case, if that doesn't happen I'll try to get the > last two things confirmed. > > By

[arch-general] final final testing images

2010-05-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
Okay guys, props to Thomas for finding out the problem with the initialization of wireless cards. I built new images, dated 2010.05.16 (aka "final final images" ;)) in which this should be fixed, and which also come with updated core packages, most notably kernel26-2.6.33.4-1 http://build.archl

Re: [arch-general] final release candidate images for testing

2010-05-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 16 May 2010 10:41:39 +0200 Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > On Sun, 16 May 2010 10:22:30 +0200 > Michael Towers wrote: > > > 2010/5/15 Dries De Smet : > > > archlinux-2010.05.13-netinstall-i686.iso , installed on asus 1005 > > > HA, from usb stick, everyth

Re: [arch-general] final release candidate images for testing

2010-05-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 16 May 2010 10:22:30 +0200 Michael Towers wrote: > 2010/5/15 Dries De Smet : > > archlinux-2010.05.13-netinstall-i686.iso , installed on asus 1005 > > HA, from usb stick, everything went fine. Just didn't detect > > wireless with kernel 2.6.32, but that's solved after updating. > > > > A

Re: [arch-general] final release candidate images for testing

2010-05-15 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 15 May 2010 10:04:40 +0300 Dmitry Korzhevin wrote: > 14.05.2010 18:16, Dieter Plaetinck пишет: > > new images are done. > > version: 2010.05.13 > > > > these are the images I want to rename to an official 2010.05 release > > after testing. > &

[arch-general] final release candidate images for testing

2010-05-14 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
new images are done. version: 2010.05.13 these are the images I want to rename to an official 2010.05 release after testing. http://build.archlinux.org/isos/Changelog http://build.archlinux.org/isos/ how should they be tested? for every file, that is: archlinux-2010.05.13-core-dual.iso archlin

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux release Schedule

2010-05-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 08 May 2010 11:50:27 +0200 Mathieu Pasquet wrote: > On 07/05/2010 21:53, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > >> > Archlinux have rolling releases. You can use *netinstall*.iso for > >> > installing new software or just do `pacman -Syu` after install. > > I second

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.33.3-2 (and aufs2)

2010-05-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 02 May 2010 17:49:13 +0200 Pierre Schmitz wrote: > This new kernel just exports some additional symbols for aufs2 which > was updated to a new snapshot. This should hopefully fix some issues > with the .33 kernel and aufs. Related aufs packages are: aufs2 > 2.6.33_20100425-2 and aufs2-uti

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux release Schedule

2010-05-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 7 May 2010 08:42:39 +0300 Nick Stepa wrote: > Archlinux have rolling releases. You can use *netinstall*.iso for > installing new software or just do `pacman -Syu` after install. updated images are good for support of new hardware, filesystems, .. Dieter

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS integration

2010-05-06 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 5 May 2010 18:49:44 -0500 C Anthony Risinger wrote: > any other ideas besides rollbacks and an original snapshot that btrfs > could be used for? IIRC it supports data checksumming. about the whole snapshot/volume naming thing: do what you think is best. i cannot advise you because i don

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS integration

2010-05-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
> in my opinion we need to let AIF/etc. integration mature along with > the FS itself. this way when BTRFS is marked "stable" the tools will > be ready as well and it will be a minor transition. I could not say it better myself. It always takes a while until the 'experimental' flag is removed in

Re: [arch-general] iso's

2010-05-02 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 02 May 2010 12:55:19 +0200 Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > On 02.05.2010 12:37, Allan McRae wrote: > > On 02/05/10 20:33, Caleb Cushing wrote: > >> why is it the new iso's never made the download page? > > > > Because they were testing builds and never released... > > Allan > > > > > > > Come

Re: [arch-general] manage starting and stopping processes with less typing

2010-04-14 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:03:50 -0500 "David C. Rankin" wrote: > On 04/13/2010 02:58 PM, Flavio Costa wrote: > > What about that: for i in $(ls -1 /etc/rc.d); do alias > > rc-$i="/etc/rc,d/$i"; done > > That's simple and dynamic, just insert it on your .bashrc ou > > /etc/bash.bashrc (global) > > >

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-04 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
"release team" currently that means me. yes, i'm working on new images. see: http://build.archlinux.org/isos/ http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-releng/2010-March/thread.html progress is rather slow, but there is not so much work anymore, so they'll come.. Dieter

Re: [arch-general] new netinstall image required ?

2010-04-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 22:21:11 +0200 f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: > I have another question. The next installs will be 3 clones: > identical HW, same packages and configuration, they will run > the same SW at the same time (three audio computation servers, > each taking care of 64 channels). Is there

Re: [arch-general] new netinstall image required ?

2010-04-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:12:15 +0200 Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:57:10 +0200 > schrieb Dieter Plaetinck : > > > well, if you use the old 2009.8 images which has the old aif, it > > will indeed give problems when you install the latest packages > > (althoug

Re: [arch-general] new netinstall image required ?

2010-04-02 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:38:34 +0200 f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: > Hello all, > > I wanted to do a new install today, using netinstall > on an USB stick which has worked at least 5 times > before, the last time less than two weeks ago. > > Things failed in the 'Configure System' phase, seems > I

Re: [arch-general] Xz, space savings and delta ... my findings

2010-04-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:54:56 +0100 Nathan Wayde wrote: > Comparing with the delta (between the original packages) which 5.3MB > it's not a whole lot while allowing more flexibility(IMHO). I don't see the point. with binary delta's you get smaller packages and getting the non-changed files "aga

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:57:46 -0600 Dan McGee wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > you could also try a netinstall cd and enable the testing repository > > in /tmp/pacman.conf.  IIRC aif (the installer) uses pacman with that > > confi

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:17:07 + Damien Churchill wrote: > On 12 March 2010 12:14, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > you can also build your own iso's using archiso. > > it's pretty easy, although you need archiso from git and you must > > let it look in a repository

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:49:36 + Damien Churchill wrote: > On 12 March 2010 10:56, Damien Churchill wrote: > > On 12 March 2010 10:54, Ionut Biru wrote: > >> > >> On 03/12/2010 12:51 PM, Damien Churchill wrote: > >>> > >>> I was just wondering if there are there any up to date > >>> instructi

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs => git ?

2010-03-09 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:04:50 -0600 Aaron Griffin wrote: > I agree with everyone else that's said it. This comes up often enough > but no one ever has a good workflow that works. I have seen nothing > proposed in this thread that is good. The ONLY thing gained is "oh > neat, it's in git". We lose q

Re: [arch-general] Resigning as a Bug Wrangler

2010-03-09 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:04:40 -0300 Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: > In few days, I will start a new caeer "math professor", I am really > very happy because it's something I always wanted to study, and > beyond that, I really like teaching. > Besides, I work as a teacher in a secondary school in e

Re: [arch-general] [*] Re: Building netboot images

2010-03-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:07:07 +0530 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:33:16 +0530 > > Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > > > >> So you want to do a templated installation something like th

Re: [arch-general] [*] Re: Building netboot images

2010-03-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:33:16 +0530 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > So you want to do a templated installation something like that of > kickstart availalbe in Fedora, Redhat and CentOS. > > It is possible using Arch Installation Framework but it is under > development and not meant for use in product

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs => git ?

2010-03-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:51:30 +0100 Stefan Husmann wrote: > > 4) users can check out older versions of packages easily, with > > limited storage overhead. > Do you want to store binary packages in the git repo? Maybe I > misunderstand you. Checking out older PKGBUILDs would be doable in > svn als

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