Re: [arch-general] Anything to manage user daemons?

2011-06-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
yuck. if you just want to manage daemons running as your own user, su and sudo shouldn't even be involved. On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:05:35 +0100 Owain Sutton m...@owainsutton.co.uk wrote: How about using /etc/rc.d/ scripts with 'su user' to start the program as the relevant user (as per the

Re: [arch-general] Anything to manage user daemons?

2011-06-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:30:42 +0930 Ty ty...@eye-of-odin.com wrote: On 22/06/2011, at 7:39 PM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: yuck. if you just want to manage daemons running as your own user, su and sudo shouldn't even be involved. On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:05:35 +0100 Owain Sutton m

Re: [arch-general] Anything to manage user daemons?

2011-06-20 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:19:47 +0700 An Nguyen an.nguyen.f...@gmail.com wrote: Try these guys supervisord daemontools :-) those look neat. I wonder how they compare to each other and to systemd (which is designed to deal with system- and user level daemons as well) Dieter

Re: [arch-general] On module blacklisting

2011-06-11 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:55:35 +0200 Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: Excerpts from Tom Gundersen's message of 2011-06-11 02:22:56 +0200: Hi Magnus, On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org wrote: 1. As I read it, it's only blacklisting

Re: [arch-general] Myths and reality about cronie

2011-04-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:53:31 +0300 Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org wrote: On 04/22/2011 07:23 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:07:35 -0400 schrieb Kaiting Chenkaitocr...@gmail.com: First of all the cronie in [community-testing] is compiled with --enable-anacron. It installs

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:16:46 +0200 Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different way without any further discussions. There's a need for installing one cron daemon, but no need for a default cron daemon. It's pretty the same issue as with

Re: [arch-general] Change Arch's default crond

2011-04-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:45:29 -0400 Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.bewrote: On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different way without any further discussions. There's a need for installing one

Re: [arch-general] base stuff (was: Change Arch's default crond)

2011-04-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:22:14 -0600 Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: I think that Arch would benefit from inducing SELinux as an option because it expands the venues available for Arch Linux systems, I also think that inclusion in base of SELinux requires a minimal amount of maintenance

Re: [arch-general] [systemd] v23 released, heads up

2011-04-05 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 20:23:21 -0400 Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com wrote: Hey all, A heads up for anyone using systemd, I've just pushed the latest tag to [community-testing]. It's going to be hanging out there until we at least see udev-167. More notably, there's been a fairly silly change

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Default Bootloader for AIF

2011-03-28 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:06:57 -0400 David Campbell davek...@archlinux.us wrote: Excerpts from Dieter Plaetinck's message of 2011-03-27 10:01:35 -0400: If I want to support GPT I will need decent utilities from upstream. I know about parted and sgdisk but I need a toolset for: - interactive

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Default Bootloader for AIF

2011-03-27 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:17:02 +0530 KESHAV P.R. skodab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I wanted to share my views on this whole discussion. Many people don't know the actual features and problems with individual boot-loaders. GRUB-Legacy - Kinda KISS (actually syslinux is more KISS)

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Default Bootloader for AIF

2011-03-27 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:31:13 +0530 KESHAV P.R. skodab...@gmail.com wrote: This is really question about users who do not care about what bootloader they have in their system and simply select the 1st one in the menu. Especially true in case of newbies (most of them). I don't care if users

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.38-2

2011-03-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:40:58 +0100 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: We used to have lots of patches in the kernel (between 5 and 15), so a single -ARCH patch was created. Now, the number of patches is fairly small and I am thinking maybe we should go back to single patches.

Re: [arch-general] Web sites down?

2011-03-18 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:07:02 +0100 Cédric Girard girard.ced...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jan de Groot j...@jgc.homeip.net wrote: The mailinglist was down also, so reporting it here doesn't help that much. Understood. Won't do it again. ;-) is that the

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux support in puppet

2011-03-14 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:58:19 -0600 Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: But regardless, this should support the Arch style runlevel. maybe... in theory it's possible that in a month we switch to systemd as official init system. this will probably not happen (soon), but just saying. I do

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux support in puppet

2011-03-14 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:26:08 -0600 Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.bewrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:58:19 -0600 Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: But regardless, this should support the Arch style

Re: [arch-general] 2010.05 iso images problem?

2011-03-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:36:51 +0100 didier gaumet didier.gau...@gmail.com wrote: The one reason of this problem I can think of is that being absent-minded, I forgot about somehow failing to upgrade properly to 2.6.37 after having *successfully* installed 2.6.33 from the iso. Please guys

Re: [arch-general] 2010.05 iso images problem?

2011-03-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:16:22 +0100 didier gaumet didier.gau...@gmail.com wrote: What puzzles me is to find a 2.6.37 kernel installed by this image: if I am not wrong, 2.6.37 was out in 2011.01, eight months after the 2010.05 iso was out... did you do a netinstall? that fetches the latest

Re: [arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-20 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:58:23 +0100 Tom Willemsen tom.willem...@archlinux.us wrote: well I think it would be best to have a table that shows for each value of each criterion, the last succesful state (if known) so, for example: criterion last known state Arch: - i686

Re: [arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-19 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
Hey Tom, what's the status? If you have any questions, just let me know how I can help. If you're not interested anymore, then let me know also, then I can search for someone else :) Dieter

Re: [arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-19 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:44:22 +0100 Tom Willemsen tom.willem...@archlinux.us wrote: Hey Dieter, On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 05:56:47PM +0100, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: Hey Tom, what's the status? I'm very sorry, I haven't been able to get to it yet, I've only been able to look at how django

[arch-general] netconf network configuration management system

2011-02-14 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
anyone ever looked at http://netconf.alioth.debian.org/ ? looks interesting. I know a bunch of us are working on network management tools (like netcfg and replacements for it), but that one seems to have a good philosophy and should be distro independent. Dieter

Re: [arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-10 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:47:51 +0100 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 10.02.2011 10:39, schrieb Tom Willemsen: On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 07:40:24PM -0500, Kaiting Chen wrote: Hey I might be able to do it. But it's not going to look pretty because I'm not a designer. --Kaiting.

Re: [arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-10 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
Note that I've been talking with Tom on Fosdem, and we already privately mailed about this. In a mail he asked why not let AIF create a textfile automatically, then just submit that textfile to the webapp? I think that's a good idea: - less manual work for the user. - no webform needed (but we

[arch-general] AIF talk at Fosdem 2011

2011-02-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
I gave an AIF (related) talk at Fosdem this year. For more info, video and slides: http://dieter.plaetinck.be/can_we_build_a_simple_cross-distribution_installation_framework.html Dieter

[arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?

2011-02-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
Hi, for Arch releng, we have recently started automatically building test builds (http://releng.archlinux.org/isos/). These images are built from the archiso and aif git repositories, and the current state of the repos. The idea is that people can test these images, and once in a while, I will

Re: [arch-general] Question on repository

2011-01-25 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:21:28 +0200 Ionuț Bîru ib...@archlinux.org wrote: On 01/25/2011 11:14 PM, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: ti, 2011-01-25 kello 22:13 +0100, Grzegorz Rumiński kirjoitti: Hi lads, Can I selectively install apackage from [testing] repo or do I have to uncomment it in

Re: [arch-general] Robson Peixoto invited you to Dropbox

2011-01-24 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:12:06 + Peter Lewis ple...@aur.archlinux.org wrote: It seems to be that either someone uploads their entire addressbook to a random website (doesn't seem like a clever idea) or else gives the website their email password (very bad idea). It's probably the easiest

Re: [arch-general] Robson Peixoto invited you to Dropbox

2011-01-24 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:32:16 + Mauro Santos registo.maill...@gmail.com wrote: I guess they do (or they should, never tried it myself) and I also believe that they ask for the email's password before they can spam mail everyone. To add insult to injury some sites require (or used to

Re: [arch-general] When will Arch switch to Systemd

2011-01-21 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 03:16:34 +0100 Jan Steffens jan.steff...@gmail.com wrote: Arch's init system is completely ignorant of dependencies. Depends on how you look at it, I guess. I see the explicit ordering and backgrounding of daemons (done by the user) in rc.conf as a (very crude) form of

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all

2011-01-19 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:20:58 +0100 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 19.01.2011 08:08, schrieb Allan McRae: If we want to be really pedantic about dependencies, we should list _ALL_ dependencies and not remove the ones that are dependencies of dependencies. Why don't we just

Re: [arch-general] Alex Matviychuk wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn

2011-01-18 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:25:34 +1030 Ty John (sand_man) ty...@eye-of-odin.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 08:46 +, Alex Matviychuk wrote: LinkedIn General, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. LOL major fail Captain awesome! Dieter

Re: [arch-general] Syslinux Installer / Update Script - Testers Needed

2011-01-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:52:03 -0500 Matthew Gyurgyik pyt...@pyther.net wrote: Hello Community, Over the last few weeks I have been working on Syslinux support for the installer. With the help Thomas and Dieter I am nearing the completion of this project. As part of this project, I have

Re: [arch-general] Pkgtools v22

2011-01-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:29:59 -0500 Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm happy to announce that after a far-too-long wait, the latest version of pkgtools is released! This version is a complete rewrite from the ground up. The slow parts have been rewritten in C for a huge

[arch-general] Linux / mkinitcpio / vbox bug: bad swap file entry

2011-01-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
while testing new images, I get this: http://users.edpnet.be/dieter/vbox-or-kernel-or-mkinitcpio-bug.png the error messages show up in google results and seem to be bugs in the Linux swap code and/or drivers. interestingly, at first aif/dialog/mkinitcpio/find just keep running, but after a while

Re: [arch-general] Linux / mkinitcpio / vbox bug: bad swap file entry

2011-01-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:46:24 +0100 Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: while testing new images, I get this: http://users.edpnet.be/dieter/vbox-or-kernel-or-mkinitcpio-bug.png the error messages show up in google results and seem to be bugs in the Linux swap code and/or drivers

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:56:24 -0500 Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com wrote: I highly doubt that this was _ever_ a question of size in the repos. More likely, It's a matter of time vs. gain for a small number of volunteers. If you're a user who knows that they want a particular exotic filesystem

Re: [arch-general] [RFC] patches to initscripts

2010-12-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 01:10:12 +0100 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: The problem is: If blkid finds more than one valid signature, it will not return anything, and we will mistakenly believe that there is no file system (and happily overwrite the drive). This part of initscripts is

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

2010-12-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:30:03 +0100 Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Also the netinstall iso can only install from [core] as far as I know. not entirely correct, but that would be off-topic. But on the other hand every filesystem related package has to be removed from (base), while

Re: [arch-general] Acceptable for AIF to copy files?

2010-11-21 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:06:10 -0500 Matthew Gyurgyik pyt...@pyther.net wrote: Hello I want to add extlinux support in AIF. However, unlike grub, where grub-install takes care of everything, extlinux requires /boot/syslinux to be created and some files from /usr/lib/syslinux to be copied to

Re: [arch-general] Replace dcron once again?

2010-11-09 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
FWIW: I've gone through the archives and found multiple threads about our cron discussions. http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2009-September/ http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2010-January (esp.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] away Nov. 15-23 (to NYC)

2010-11-04 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 10:54:43 -0400 David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net wrote: I work near Penn Station. Let's take this off-list. DR Allright, cool that there are some people interested in meeting up! I will contact you guys off-list. If anyone else would like to join some fellow

Re: [arch-general] Ugh.. It's Official -- OpenOffice is forked -- LibreOffice

2010-09-29 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:24:36 -0500 David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Guys, For those that rely on OpenOffice, and for those that prepare the packages, it's official, OpenOffice forked as of Sept. 28, 2010. Here is the press release:

Re: [arch-general] Old news

2010-09-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:20:29 +0530 Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:05 PM, 甘露(Gan Lu) rhythm@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Mike Sampson m...@sambodata.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:28 PM, jesse jaara

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.5-1

2010-09-21 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:44:52 +0200 Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote: Latest kernel is in testing, please signoff for both arches. greetings tpowa Signoff i686 lvm/encrypt this kernel fixes Alan's[1] big sata_sil breakage, making my system boot again. ( see

Re: [arch-general] $startdir/src, $startdir/pkg and || return 1 in official packages

2010-09-17 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:07:30 +0200 Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: Anyway, whats the rush? They will change eventually. There should be no (or very few) $startdir/{src,pkg} in [core]. As I already said at the beginning: Although this isn't really significant... I was

Re: [arch-general] distributed bugtracking?

2010-09-10 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:01:43 -0500 C Anthony Risinger anth...@extof.me wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: Excerpts from Dieter Plaetinck's message of 2010-09-08 21:47:40 +0200: anyone knows this? http://bugseverywhere.org/be/show/HomePage

[arch-general] distributed bugtracking?

2010-09-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
anyone knows this? http://bugseverywhere.org/be/show/HomePage the concept looks great, although i don't know anything about the implementation/usage. other then the advantages they list, I think something like this can be useful for downstream-upstream communication. (ie someone reports a bug in

Re: [arch-general] Something is wrong with xbindkeys

2010-08-29 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:52:12 +0800 (CST) 大熊 bear_...@163.com wrote: I use xbindkeys under kde4 (start xbindkeys with kde's autorun), add some hotkeys: win+a, win+c, win+h, win+j, ... When kde4.4, All are OK. Few days ago I upgraded to kde4.5 , So something is wrong: When I just enter desktop,

Re: [arch-general] Interactive boot mode like in Gentoo

2010-08-27 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:02:43 +1100 joker-...@yandex.ru joker-...@yandex.ru wrote: What do you think about it? Need to be in Arch? During booting before starting daemons appears message: Press I to enter interactive boot mode Interactive boot allows to select action for each daemon

Re: [arch-general] Image my installed Arch into a USB pendrive

2010-08-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 10:43:03 +0300 jesse jaara jesse.ja...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/3 Martín Cigorraga martosurf7...@gmail.com Hi, is possible to image my current Arch system into a USB pendrive and use it from there? Many thanks! Martín It is possible you will have to

Re: [arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 01:00:09 -0500 David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Well sometimes the stupid ones among us don't always catch that dovecot is being updated when it is one of 73+ updates that take place. But we 'do' always catch the failure to copy to sent -- later

Re: [arch-general] Unificate login credentials in Arch's website

2010-08-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 11:23:49 +0300 jesse jaara jesse.ja...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/3 Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org One way to solve it would be to add a fourth set of credentials :-) For instance OpenID. I never understood why there is a need for openid when there are client ssl

Re: [arch-general] Unificate login credentials in Arch's website

2010-08-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 09:58:15 +0100 Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 09:35, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 11:23:49 +0300 jesse jaara jesse.ja...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/3 Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org One way

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-02 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:31:47 +0200 Pierre Chapuis catw...@archlinux.us wrote: On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:58:00 +0200, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:46:33 +0200 Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: I don't think that nilfs-utils should be moved

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-02 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:08:50 +0200 Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:31:47 +0200 schrieb Pierre Chapuis catw...@archlinux.us: Just for information, the opposite point of view recently came up on the suckless mailing-list:

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:47:24 -0700 Alex Matviychuk alex...@gmail.com wrote: I just spent some time setting up my new laptop with an SSD to use NILFS2 as its root filesystem and I'm very pleased with the performance. In an effort to get better support for NILFS2 in arch I've added a request

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:46:33 +0200 Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: I don't think that nilfs-utils should be moved to the base group. I agree with moving it to [core] but not to base, because base is assumed to be installed on every computer and packages in the base group are usually

Re: [arch-general] [PATCH 1/1] Make umounting filesystems much more paranoid.

2010-07-11 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
fwiw in AIF I do something similar (see http://github.com/Dieterbe/aif/blob/master/src/core/libs/lib-blockdevices-filesystems.sh#L457) (but there i use a text file containing all mountpoints) The interesting thing is, to find the order in which you should mount or (or umount) blockdevices can be

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Inclusion of wvdial in the ISO

2010-06-27 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
So, what? we better include ppp and not wvdial? Dieter

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Inclusion of wvdial in the ISO

2010-06-27 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:16:58 +0800 Ray Rashif schivmeis...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 June 2010 17:35, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: So, what? we better include ppp and not wvdial? No, it will definitely help if it's included - you just have to make an exception and try to fit

Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Inclusion of wvdial in the ISO

2010-06-26 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:22:39 -0600 jwbirdsong jwbirds...@jwbirdsong.homelinux.com wrote: On 06/25/2010 11:54 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: Hi, Recently I've been going to my friends' house and installing arch on their boxes. Some of them had high speed wireless dialup internet (3.1

Re: [arch-general] AIF through proxy

2010-05-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 22 May 2010 02:04:41 +0200 Andre \Osku\ Schmidt andre.osku.schm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2010 22:41:12 +0200 Andre \Osku\ Schmidt andre.osku.schm...@googlemail.com wrote: just gives me

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: AIF through proxy

2010-05-22 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 22 May 2010 12:51:39 +0200 Andre \Osku\ Schmidt andre.osku.schm...@googlemail.com wrote: now i only wonder what would be the best way and place to save these variables in the installed system ? are you saying the target system should always use the proxies, for all users? maybe write

Re: [arch-general] AIF through proxy

2010-05-21 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 21 May 2010 22:19:18 +0200 Andre \Osku\ Schmidt andre.osku.schm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello Arch, is anyone using the arch installer with squid proxy ? (or any other cache proxy) i'm again so close my goal that it makes me nervous :) - squid installed on the host machine,

Re: [arch-general] AIF through proxy

2010-05-21 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 21 May 2010 22:41:12 +0200 Andre \Osku\ Schmidt andre.osku.schm...@googlemail.com wrote: just gives me the usage info, without any errors... and also the Invalid URL scheme errors that i see in tty7 are nowhere to find in /var/log/* what i would do in a case like this is just

Re: [arch-general] final release candidate images for testing

2010-05-17 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 17 May 2010 00:25:24 +0200 Dries De Smet driesdes...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry if I caused anyone work over this, but I must have been sleepy, I saw the link to the images, downloaded the first netinstall I saw tested it, not realising it was the new image, but the one from april

Re: [arch-general] final final testing images

2010-05-17 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 17 May 2010 23:55:57 +0200 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 17.05.2010 23:36, schrieb Fons Adriaensen: On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 05:17:28PM +0200, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: I built new images, dated 2010.05.16 (aka final final images ;)) in which this should be fixed

Re: [arch-general] final release candidate images for testing

2010-05-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 16 May 2010 10:22:30 +0200 Michael Towers larc...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/5/15 Dries De Smet driesdes...@gmail.com: archlinux-2010.05.13-netinstall-i686.iso , installed on asus 1005 HA, from usb stick, everything went fine. Just didn't detect wireless with kernel 2.6.32, but

Re: [arch-general] final release candidate images for testing

2010-05-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 16 May 2010 10:41:39 +0200 Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2010 10:22:30 +0200 Michael Towers larc...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/5/15 Dries De Smet driesdes...@gmail.com: archlinux-2010.05.13-netinstall-i686.iso , installed on asus 1005 HA, from usb

[arch-general] final final testing images

2010-05-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
Okay guys, props to Thomas for finding out the problem with the initialization of wireless cards. I built new images, dated 2010.05.16 (aka final final images ;)) in which this should be fixed, and which also come with updated core packages, most notably kernel26-2.6.33.4-1

Re: [arch-general] final final testing images

2010-05-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 16 May 2010 23:28:24 +0800 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com wrote: Would like to help testing it out, but my weekend internet (home connection) sucks, and by the time I get into the office it may be done already. In any case, if that doesn't happen I'll try to get the last two things

Re: [arch-general] final final testing images

2010-05-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 16 May 2010 20:12:32 +0200 Karol Babioch ka...@babioch.de wrote: On Sunday 16 May 2010 17:17:28 Dieter Plaetinck wrote: So right now, these two things are needed: * confirmation that archlinux-2010.05.16-core-x86_64.iso boots fine. * confirmation that wireless cards are properly

Re: [arch-general] final release candidate images for testing

2010-05-15 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 15 May 2010 10:04:40 +0300 Dmitry Korzhevin dkorzhe...@lsupport.net wrote: 14.05.2010 18:16, Dieter Plaetinck пишет: new images are done. version: 2010.05.13 these are the images I want to rename to an official 2010.05 release after testing. http://build.archlinux.org/isos

[arch-general] final release candidate images for testing

2010-05-14 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
new images are done. version: 2010.05.13 these are the images I want to rename to an official 2010.05 release after testing. http://build.archlinux.org/isos/Changelog http://build.archlinux.org/isos/ how should they be tested? for every file, that is: archlinux-2010.05.13-core-dual.iso

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux release Schedule

2010-05-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 08 May 2010 11:50:27 +0200 Mathieu Pasquet mathieu...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/05/2010 21:53, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: Archlinux have rolling releases. You can use *netinstall*.iso for installing new software or just do `pacman -Syu` after install. I second that. I have met someone

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux release Schedule

2010-05-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 7 May 2010 08:42:39 +0300 Nick Stepa hired...@gmail.com wrote: Archlinux have rolling releases. You can use *netinstall*.iso for installing new software or just do `pacman -Syu` after install. updated images are good for support of new hardware, filesystems, .. Dieter

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.33.3-2 (and aufs2)

2010-05-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 02 May 2010 17:49:13 +0200 Pierre Schmitz pie...@archlinux.de wrote: This new kernel just exports some additional symbols for aufs2 which was updated to a new snapshot. This should hopefully fix some issues with the .33 kernel and aufs. Related aufs packages are: aufs2

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS integration

2010-05-06 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 5 May 2010 18:49:44 -0500 C Anthony Risinger anth...@extof.me wrote: any other ideas besides rollbacks and an original snapshot that btrfs could be used for? IIRC it supports data checksumming. about the whole snapshot/volume naming thing: do what you think is best. i cannot advise

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS integration

2010-05-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
in my opinion we need to let AIF/etc. integration mature along with the FS itself. this way when BTRFS is marked stable the tools will be ready as well and it will be a minor transition. I could not say it better myself. It always takes a while until the 'experimental' flag is removed in the

Re: [arch-general] iso's

2010-05-02 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 02 May 2010 12:55:19 +0200 Sven-Hendrik Haase s...@lutzhaase.com wrote: On 02.05.2010 12:37, Allan McRae wrote: On 02/05/10 20:33, Caleb Cushing wrote: why is it the new iso's never made the download page? Because they were testing builds and never released... Allan Come

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-04 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
release team currently that means me. yes, i'm working on new images. see: http://build.archlinux.org/isos/ http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-releng/2010-March/thread.html progress is rather slow, but there is not so much work anymore, so they'll come.. Dieter

Re: [arch-general] new netinstall image required ?

2010-04-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:12:15 +0200 Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:57:10 +0200 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be: well, if you use the old 2009.8 images which has the old aif, it will indeed give problems when you install the latest packages

Re: [arch-general] new netinstall image required ?

2010-04-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 22:21:11 +0200 f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: I have another question. The next installs will be 3 clones: identical HW, same packages and configuration, they will run the same SW at the same time (three audio computation servers, each taking care of 64 channels). Is there any

Re: [arch-general] new netinstall image required ?

2010-04-02 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:38:34 +0200 f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: Hello all, I wanted to do a new install today, using netinstall on an USB stick which has worked at least 5 times before, the last time less than two weeks ago. Things failed in the 'Configure System' phase, seems I didn't

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:49:36 + Damien Churchill dam...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 March 2010 10:56, Damien Churchill dam...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 March 2010 10:54, Ionut Biru biru.io...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/12/2010 12:51 PM, Damien Churchill wrote: I was just wondering if there are

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:17:07 + Damien Churchill dam...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 March 2010 12:14, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: you can also build your own iso's using archiso. it's pretty easy, although you need archiso from git and you must let it look in a repository

Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso

2010-03-12 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:57:46 -0600 Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: you could also try a netinstall cd and enable the testing repository in /tmp/pacman.conf.  IIRC aif (the installer) uses pacman

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs = git ?

2010-03-09 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:04:50 -0600 Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with everyone else that's said it. This comes up often enough but no one ever has a good workflow that works. I have seen nothing proposed in this thread that is good. The ONLY thing gained is oh neat, it's

Re: [arch-general] Resigning as a Bug Wrangler

2010-03-09 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:04:40 -0300 Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi vmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: In few days, I will start a new caeer math professor, I am really very happy because it's something I always wanted to study, and beyond that, I really like teaching. Besides, I work as a teacher in a

Re: [arch-general] [*] Re: Building netboot images

2010-03-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:33:16 +0530 Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: So you want to do a templated installation something like that of kickstart availalbe in Fedora, Redhat and CentOS. It is possible using Arch Installation Framework but it is under development and not meant for

Re: [arch-general] [*] Re: Building netboot images

2010-03-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:07:07 +0530 Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:33:16 +0530 Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: So you want to do a templated installation something

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs = git ?

2010-03-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:18:26 +0800 Ray Rashif schivmeis...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/03/2010, Pierre Schmitz pie...@archlinux.de wrote: Am Sonntag, 7. März 2010 12:03:08 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck: 2) svn-git migration is not trivial, since tools, the website, .. will need to be adapted

Re: [arch-general] svn packaging, abs = git ?

2010-03-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:49:01 +0100 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: 1) We want to be able to see which PKGBUILD matches the package in the repository. In SVN, we use copy - which is subversion's equivalent to branching: By copying, you create a reference and all history of the

Re: [arch-general] grub2 and xfs seems not to work :(

2010-03-06 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:12:10 +0100 Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote: Am Freitag 05 März 2010 schrieb Tobias Powalowski: Hi guys, i'm just trying to get grub2 support in archboot's setup. Now i have found an irritating thing it seems it doesn't like xfs and the ususal xfs_freeze hack

Re: [arch-general] grub2 and xfs seems not to work :(

2010-03-06 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:43:34 +0100 Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote: Am Freitag 05 März 2010 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck: On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:12:10 +0100 Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote: Am Freitag 05 März 2010 schrieb Tobias Powalowski: Hi guys, i'm just trying to get

Re: [arch-general] [patch] AIF, partition table compatibility with grub2.

2010-03-05 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:02:53 -0600 Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:18:28 +0100 Jan de Groot j...@jgc.homeip.net wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 23:21 +0100, Tobias Powalowski

Re: [arch-general] [patch] AIF, partition table compatibility with grub2.

2010-02-24 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:18:28 +0100 Jan de Groot j...@jgc.homeip.net wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 23:21 +0100, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Just poked around with grub2 and kvm, you really need the extra space, else it will fail to install. creating partitions with cfdisk will also leave this

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Let's agree on a common coding style

2010-02-13 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:16:01 -0500 Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 15:12, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.com wrote: For example, in a PKGBUILD I would write ${pkgname}_$pkgver, because _ can be part of a variable name, but I'd much rather prefer to

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Let's agree on a common coding style

2010-02-13 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:11:01 +0100 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 13.02.2010 21:57, schrieb Dieter Plaetinck: For example, in a PKGBUILD I would write ${pkgname}_$pkgver, because _ can be part of a variable name, but I'd much rather prefer to use $pkgname-$pkgver, since

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