Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-19 Thread Andrea Scarpino
- Original message - > But heiko makes a point. If an unsupported package still worked, without > compiling or something like that, why would you drop it? The idea with a > new "unsupported" repo is not bad. You have got the binaries, but you > are also saying: "this program will probably n

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-19 Thread János Illés
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:27, Harlequin wrote: > The idea with a new "unsupported" repo is not bad. > You have got the binaries, but you are also saying: "this program will > probably not work. We take no responsibility" Then step up and do something. Make this repository. It would make no diffe

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-19 Thread Harlequin
But heiko makes a point. If an unsupported package still worked, without compiling or something like that, why would you drop it? The idea with a new "unsupported" repo is not bad. You have got the binaries, but you are also saying: "this program will probably not work. We take no responsibility

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 17 Nov 2010 07:41:01 -0600 schrieb Dan McGee : > Five step plan to success: > 1) Actually contribute instead of whining on a mailing list Is saying one's opinion whining? How long since? And, yes, I am already contributing in AUR, I've already written a split PKGBUILD for libreoffice-i18n

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 18 Nov 2010 02:01:11 +0800 schrieb Ng Oon-Ee : > And Gan Lu, I'm not sure which thread you've been following, but Heiko > specifically references something along the lines of "I may as well go > back to Gentoo". Have you really read only this half sentence? Or have you read all my argumen

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 16:47 +0100, Andrea Scarpino wrote: > On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:37:41 甘露(Gan Lu) wrote: > > If some says "this is shame", "I'm leaving", > > "you suck", "developers are selfish", you could certainly discard > > them, but not I or Heiko, we just talk about our opinion.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:37:41 甘露(Gan Lu) wrote: > If some says "this is shame", "I'm leaving", > "you suck", "developers are selfish", you could certainly discard > them, but not I or Heiko, we just talk about our opinion. > Does a great community contain only TU/devs? Does Arch is drive

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Gan Lu
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:31 AM, 甘露(Gan Lu) wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >>> I know I'm crossposting this, but this rather belongs to arch-general >>> than to aur-general. >>> >>> Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:19:40 -0

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Dan McGee
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:31 AM, 甘露(Gan Lu) wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> I know I'm crossposting this, but this rather belongs to arch-general >> than to aur-general. >> >> Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:19:40 -0500 >> schrieb Kaiting Chen : >> >>> I think it's kind of

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Gan Lu
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > I know I'm crossposting this, but this rather belongs to arch-general > than to aur-general. > > Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:19:40 -0500 > schrieb Kaiting Chen : > >> I think it's kind of hard for me to see why I should maintain a >> package that's

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Heiko Baums
I know I'm crossposting this, but this rather belongs to arch-general than to aur-general. Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:19:40 -0500 schrieb Kaiting Chen : > I think it's kind of hard for me to see why I should maintain a > package that's already been discarded by its developer. In my opinion > such pac

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-14 Thread Attila
At Sonntag, 14. November 2010 22:07 Eric Bélanger wrote: > There's already RSS feeds with that information (maybe not as compact > as you want) : > > http://aur.archlinux.org/rss.php > http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/packages/?op=rss&isdir=1 > http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/community/?op=rss&isd

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-14 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Attila wrote: > At Samstag, 13. November 2010 17:32 Heiko Baums wrote: > >> And I have nothing against cleaning up a repo. But this should be done >> more considered. Means only unimportant, unpopular packages or packages >> which don't run anymore should be moved

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-14 Thread Attila
At Samstag, 13. November 2010 17:32 Heiko Baums wrote: > And I have nothing against cleaning up a repo. But this should be done > more considered. Means only unimportant, unpopular packages or packages > which don't run anymore should be moved to AUR or removed completely but > not packages which

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-13 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 17:32 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: > > And I have nothing against cleaning up a repo. But this should be done > more considered. Means only unimportant, unpopular packages or packages > which don't run anymore should be moved to AUR or removed completely but > not packages which

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-13 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:18:02 -0500 schrieb Loui Chang : > Sorry, Heiko. I don't think you properly understand Arch culture here. > If you want something done you are expected to contribute and put > forth your own effort to make it happen. The TUs and Devs cannot be > expected to be your personal

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-13 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:05:46 -0500 schrieb Leonid Isaev : > eboard:The latest version is: 1.1.1 (Feb 22nd, 2008) > gdesklets: gDesklets 0.36.1 released November 5th 2008 > lincity: The current stable release of lincity is version 1.12.1 >(Aug. 13, 2004) > tin: TIN 1.9.5 (un

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-13 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:34:20 +0100 schrieb Andrea Scarpino : > I'd like to see your application as TU. There are reasons, why I currently can't. If I could I would do it. I hope this will change in the near future, but it can take a while. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-13 Thread Loui Chang
On Sat 13 Nov 2010 15:23 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:46:30 +0100 > schrieb Andrea Scarpino : > > > On Thursday 11 November 2010 22:54:36 Roman Kyrylych wrote: > > > I adopted some (and edited the page). > > Nice, today we have 291 orphans packages in [extra] (they were 352 >

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-13 Thread Leonid Isaev
On (11/13/10 15:23), Heiko Baums wrote: -~> Those packages are also quite common and important: -~> -~> > eboard -~> > gdesklets -~> > lincity -~> > pure-ftpd -~> > tcsh -~> > tin Let's see... eboard:The latest version is: 1.1.1 (Feb 22nd, 2008) gdesklets: gDesklets 0.36.1 released November

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-13 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Saturday 13 November 2010 15:23:45 Heiko Baums wrote: > Nice, then I would need to install 110 packages from AUR and compile > them manually. When I switched to Arch Linux about 3 years ago it was > less than 50. Is a tiny that you do not use any of ours ~8000 packages in official repositories.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-13 Thread Allan McRae
On 14/11/10 00:23, Heiko Baums wrote: I wouldn't say anything if you would cleanup the official repos from unnecessary, unimportant and unused or hardly used packages like some ttf fonts, GTK1 themes, etc. But there are too many, too important packages in your list which definitely belong into t

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-13 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:46:30 +0100 schrieb Andrea Scarpino : > On Thursday 11 November 2010 22:54:36 Roman Kyrylych wrote: > > I adopted some (and edited the page). > Nice, today we have 291 orphans packages in [extra] (they were 352 > three days ago). 62 will be moved to [community]. 127 to AUR.