Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Kyle
Thanks for posting the information about journalless ext4. I now have a 100MB ext4 /boot partition with no journal on my flash drive rather than using ext2. Syslinux is working perfectly with this configuration. ~Kyle

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Then use ext4 without a journal. ext2 is out of date and ext4 is > superior in every aspect. ext4 is superior and it even beats btrfs in some speed tests. However, it is rare that any new thing is superior in every respect. An ext2 filesystem is easier to recover with tools like testdisk rather

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 18:27, schrieb Manolo Martínez: > On 08/09/12 at 06:26pm, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> Am 09.08.2012 18:23, schrieb Manolo Martínez: >>> On 08/09/12 at 11:18am, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:35:04 -0400 Manolo Martínez wrote: > Is it safe to change an existing /

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 08/09/12 at 06:26pm, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 09.08.2012 18:23, schrieb Manolo Martínez: > > On 08/09/12 at 11:18am, Leonid Isaev wrote: > >> On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:35:04 -0400 > >> Manolo Martínez wrote: > >>> Is it safe to change an existing /boot from ext2 to ext4? > >> > >> https://wiki.ar

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 18:23, schrieb Manolo Martínez: > On 08/09/12 at 11:18am, Leonid Isaev wrote: >> On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:35:04 -0400 >> Manolo Martínez wrote: >>> Is it safe to change an existing /boot from ext2 to ext4? >> >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ext4 >> > Is the information on the mo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 08/09/12 at 11:18am, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:35:04 -0400 > Manolo Martínez wrote: > > Is it safe to change an existing /boot from ext2 to ext4? > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ext4 > Is the information on the move from ext3 to ext4 valid for the issue at hand? M

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Baho Utot
On 08/09/2012 12:12 PM, Manolo Martínez wrote: [putolin] ... and another enthralling battle of wits brought to you by arch-general! I think that it's general archcommander and chief

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:35:04 -0400 Manolo Martínez wrote: > On 08/09/12 at 05:27pm, Thomas Bächler wrote: > > Am 09.08.2012 17:12, schrieb Jonathan: > > > In the past I have seen ext2 saves time during boot vs ext3.Having a > > > journal is no use since the files are rarely changed and the > > > f

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Baho Utot
On 08/09/2012 12:08 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 09.08.2012 17:58, schrieb Baho Utot: It is not 10 year old information it was published just after ext4 came out google is your friend. It is still outdated information. After ext4 came out, it took a few months until Google started implementing

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 08/09/12 at 06:08pm, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 09.08.2012 17:58, schrieb Baho Utot: > > It is not 10 year old information it was published just after ext4 came out > > > > google is your friend. > > It is still outdated information. After ext4 came out, it took a few > months until Google sta

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 17:58, schrieb Baho Utot: > It is not 10 year old information it was published just after ext4 came out > > google is your friend. It is still outdated information. After ext4 came out, it took a few months until Google started implementing ext4 without a journal - precisely because

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:12:34 -0400 Jonathan wrote: > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Ionut Biru wrote: > > On 08/09/2012 01:55 AM, Myra Nelson wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: > >>> On Aug 8, 2012 6:04 PM, "Allan McRae" wrote: > > On 09/08/12 05:29, Tobi

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Baho Utot
On 08/09/2012 11:45 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 09.08.2012 17:34, schrieb Baho Utot: On 08/09/2012 11:27 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 09.08.2012 17:12, schrieb Jonathan: In the past I have seen ext2 saves time during boot vs ext3.Having a journal is no use since the files are rarely changed a

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 17:34, schrieb Baho Utot: > On 08/09/2012 11:27 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> Am 09.08.2012 17:12, schrieb Jonathan: >>> In the past I have seen ext2 saves time during boot vs ext3.Having a >>> journal is no use since the files are rarely changed and the >>> filesystem is mostly opened

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 17:35, schrieb Manolo Martínez: > On 08/09/12 at 05:27pm, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> Am 09.08.2012 17:12, schrieb Jonathan: >>> In the past I have seen ext2 saves time during boot vs ext3.Having a >>> journal is no use since the files are rarely changed and the >>> filesystem is mostly

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > On 08/09/2012 11:27 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> Then use ext4 without a journal. [snip] > On flash drives, usb drives, ext2 is recommended, as it doesn’t need to do > the over head of journaling. Same holds for ext4 without journaling...

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 08/09/12 at 05:27pm, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 09.08.2012 17:12, schrieb Jonathan: > > In the past I have seen ext2 saves time during boot vs ext3.Having a > > journal is no use since the files are rarely changed and the > > filesystem is mostly opened read only. The journal takes up some > > s

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Baho Utot
On 08/09/2012 11:27 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 09.08.2012 17:12, schrieb Jonathan: In the past I have seen ext2 saves time during boot vs ext3.Having a journal is no use since the files are rarely changed and the filesystem is mostly opened read only. The journal takes up some space. These may

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.08.2012 17:12, schrieb Jonathan: > In the past I have seen ext2 saves time during boot vs ext3.Having a > journal is no use since the files are rarely changed and the > filesystem is mostly opened read only. The journal takes up some > space. These may matter to you if you are trying to optim

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-09 Thread Jonathan
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Ionut Biru wrote: > On 08/09/2012 01:55 AM, Myra Nelson wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: >>> On Aug 8, 2012 6:04 PM, "Allan McRae" wrote: On 09/08/12 05:29, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Am 08.08.2012 21:25, schrieb Evangelo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-08 Thread Myra Nelson
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Ionut Biru wrote: > On 08/09/2012 01:55 AM, Myra Nelson wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: >>> On Aug 8, 2012 6:04 PM, "Allan McRae" wrote: On 09/08/12 05:29, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Am 08.08.2012 21:25, schrieb Evangelo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-08 Thread Ionut Biru
On 08/09/2012 01:55 AM, Myra Nelson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: >> On Aug 8, 2012 6:04 PM, "Allan McRae" wrote: >>> >>> On 09/08/12 05:29, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Am 08.08.2012 21:25, schrieb Evangelos Foutras: > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Tobias P

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

2012-08-08 Thread Myra Nelson
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: > On Aug 8, 2012 6:04 PM, "Allan McRae" wrote: >> >> On 09/08/12 05:29, Tobias Powalowski wrote: >> > Am 08.08.2012 21:25, schrieb Evangelos Foutras: >> >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Tobias Powalowski >> >> wrote: >> >>> It was just a reb