Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Kyle
According to Tom Gundersen: #Also, usind syslinux rather than grub is usually much simpler #(assuming you don't require some feature that is only required by #grub. Thanks Tom for suggesting syslinux. I now have a bootable system using syslinux, an ext2 /boot partition and BTRFS on the rest of

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Leonardo Dagnino
For what I understood, messing with the initcpio won't change anything, because GRUB doesn't even get to load it. Leonardo Dagnino 2012/7/31 Kyle > > > According to Tom Gundersen: > #On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> > #wrote: > #> why isn't it necessary? is

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Kyle
According to Tom Gundersen: #On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> #wrote: #> why isn't it necessary? is it loaded by default? because udev isn't #> running... # #btrfs, like all the other fs modules, should be loaded on-demand when #"mount" is called. Additionall

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Kyle
According to Tom Gundersen: #Kyle: a btrfs module (in rc.conf or otherwise) should not be necessary. I didn't think so, since I added btrfs to my HOOKS array in /etc/initcpio.conf right after filesystems, although that may not be necessary either. Better safe than sorry. #In my experience, li

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > why isn't it necessary? is it loaded by default? because udev isn't > running... btrfs, like all the other fs modules, should be loaded on-demand when "mount" is called. -t

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
+1 for the ext2 boot partition why isn't it necessary? is it loaded by default? because udev isn't running... On Aug 1, 2012 1:25 AM, "Tom Gundersen" wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I'm sorry Kyle for screwing your topic... > > well, I

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm sorry Kyle for screwing your topic... > well, I think that you need an ext boot partition. > then, try to add the btrfs to modprobe.d (I don't remember exactly how...) > or to rc.conf (if using init scripts and not

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
:-) nothing more to say (well the real challenge it to also have your hands tied on your back :-P ) um, well, grub in my opinion is pretty unstable... it's like a woman you never know! I always try to install grub in my arch installations, but sometimes it "just fails"! so, syslinux could be an op

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Kyle
According to "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας": #PS: WOW man, how can you even install Arch by being visually #impaired??? #You must be GENIUS Lol I use Chris Brannon's Talking Arch install media. http://the-brannons.com/tarch I stand on the shoulders of giants. :) #PS2: I'm not trying to say ANYTHING bad

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
PS2: I'm not trying to say ANYTHING bad about you and I'm sorry, if I offended you, I just think that it's very difficult... On Aug 1, 2012 12:47 AM, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > PS: WOW man, how can you even install Arch by being visually impaired??? > You must be GENIUS >

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
PS: WOW man, how can you even install Arch by being visually impaired??? You must be GENIUS On Aug 1, 2012 12:43 AM, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm sorry Kyle for screwing your topic... > well, I think that you need an ext boot partition. > then, try to add the btrfs to mo

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
I'm sorry Kyle for screwing your topic... well, I think that you need an ext boot partition. then, try to add the btrfs to modprobe.d (I don't remember exactly how...) or to rc.conf (if using init scripts and not systemd) by adding "btrfs" to the MODULES array On Aug 1, 2012 12:38 AM, "Kyle" wrote

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Kyle
More information about my initial problem: I was able to take a picture of part of my screen using my phone, and Google is telling me that GRUB is loading into rescue mode with an error that says something about "unknown filesystem." Sorry, I can't get much more detailed than that, because the t

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
well, I can format to ext4, but it would actually kill my sd On Jul 31, 2012 11:15 AM, "Leonidas Spyropoulos" wrote: > On 31 Jul 2012 01:49, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > yaffs2 would be faster than ext2? > > On Jul 31, 2012 3:21 AM, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com>

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Leonidas Spyropoulos
On 31 Jul 2012 01:49, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > yaffs2 would be faster than ext2? > On Jul 31, 2012 3:21 AM, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > hm... I curently use ext2 and I have installation in a partition of my sd > > card. wich fs would be better than e

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-30 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
yaffs2 would be faster than ext2? On Jul 31, 2012 3:21 AM, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > hm... I curently use ext2 and I have installation in a partition of my sd > card. wich fs would be better than ext2, given that I need quich r/w but as > less writes as possible? > On Jul 31,

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-30 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
hm... I curently use ext2 and I have installation in a partition of my sd card. wich fs would be better than ext2, given that I need quich r/w but as less writes as possible? On Jul 31, 2012 3:18 AM, "Leonardo Dagnino" wrote: > Well, I don't think it will "destroy" the flash... As it is made of N

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-30 Thread Leonardo Dagnino
Well, I don't think it will "destroy" the flash... As it is made of NAND flash, I suppose that it reacts pretty much like an SSD. Anyway, it should take a considerable time until it wears out, and if you use it only to install an OS, it won't have any writes, what means that it shouldn't wear out f

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-30 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
well, I will make a good try to add btrfs support to android kernel! I will start with siyah kernel for galaxy s2, I'm a kernel newbie, so any help is greatly appreciated! (I will also try to reformat some system partitions to btrfs...) trying to figure out the partition table of the android... sor

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-30 Thread Kyle
According to Zhengyu Xu: #Did you add usb and btrfs to the hooks array in your mkinitcpio.conf? Forgot to mention it, but yes I did. According to "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας": #is it actually safe to format an usb flash to btrfs? won't it destroy #the #flash because of the read/writes? The BTRFS documen

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-30 Thread Zhengyu Xu
I've no idea on how btrfs performs with a flash disk actually. My btrfs partition just locates on a normal hdd so I have never thought about it :-) Regards, Zhengyu Xu On 2012-7-31, at 8:27, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας<01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > is it actually safe to format an usb flash to btrfs? won't

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-30 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
is it actually safe to format an usb flash to btrfs? won't it destroy the flash because of the read/writes? On Jul 31, 2012 2:20 AM, "Zhengyu Xu" wrote: > On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 17:36 -0400, Kyle wrote: > > Trying to install Arch on a USB key, I am having trouble getting a > bootable system. I cre

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-30 Thread Zhengyu Xu
On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 17:36 -0400, Kyle wrote: > Trying to install Arch on a USB key, I am having trouble getting a bootable > system. I created a basic BTRFS filesystem and mounted it with SSD > optimizations and compression. I didn't create any subvolumes or anything > else that is said to be

[arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-30 Thread Kyle
Trying to install Arch on a USB key, I am having trouble getting a bootable system. I created a basic BTRFS filesystem and mounted it with SSD optimizations and compression. I didn't create any subvolumes or anything else that is said to be problematic when booting to a BTRFS filesystem. From th