Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Archboot: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143541 > > It uses a working installer for quite everything. > For complete systemd support next ISO would be better to use, > I'm only waiting for core changes to calm down first. > greetings

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Am Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:28:00 +0200 > schrieb fredbezies : > >> Hello. >> >> I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very >> "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like >> good old arch/setup ? >

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:28:00 +0200 schrieb fredbezies : > Hello. > > I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very > "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like > good old arch/setup ? > > I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some us

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-16 14:13:39 +0200] Christoph Vigano: > Speaking of which: how can one get involved into the development of AIF? https://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-releng > Is there something like a bug list for it? https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?project=6 > Something different:

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Christoph Vigano
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > Personally I think we would be better off with just these scripts > + lots of documentation. If you are interested in an installer, > then I guess the best solution is to get involved with the AIF and > get it into shape again. Speaking of which:

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-16 13:28:00 +0200] fredbezies: > I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users > which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. In view of the many issues and complaints related to the move from /lib to /usr/lib, it seems pretty clear to me that most pe

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM, fredbezies wrote: > I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very > "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like > good old arch/setup ? Personally I think we would be better off with just these scripts + lots of documenta

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Leandro Inacio
2012/7/16 fredbezies > Hello. > > I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very > "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like > good old arch/setup ? > > I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users > which are not ready for a so "

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
fredbezies wrote: Hello. I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like good old arch/setup ? I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users which are not ready for a so "simplified" insta

[arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread fredbezies
Hello. I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like good old arch/setup ? I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. -- F

Re: [arch-general] about arch

2010-05-06 Thread Baho Utot
On 05/06/10 19:40, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 18:54 -0400, Baho Utot wrote: On 05/06/10 08:20, Diogo Franco wrote: On 05/ 6/10 06:08 AM, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: outdated: "Arch also offers an [unsupported] section in the Arch Linux User Repository (AUR), which contains over 9,000

Re: [arch-general] about arch

2010-05-06 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 18:54 -0400, Baho Utot wrote: > On 05/06/10 08:20, Diogo Franco wrote: > > On 05/ 6/10 06:08 AM, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: > >> outdated: "Arch also offers an [unsupported] section in the Arch Linux > >> User Repository (AUR), which contains over 9,000 build scripts" It > >> sh

Re: [arch-general] about arch

2010-05-06 Thread Baho Utot
On 05/06/10 08:20, Diogo Franco wrote: On 05/ 6/10 06:08 AM, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: outdated: "Arch also offers an [unsupported] section in the Arch Linux User Repository (AUR), which contains over 9,000 build scripts" It should say "over 21.000 build scripts". IT'S OVER NINE THOUSND!

Re: [arch-general] about arch

2010-05-06 Thread Diogo Franco
On 05/ 6/10 06:08 AM, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: outdated: "Arch also offers an [unsupported] section in the Arch Linux User Repository (AUR), which contains over 9,000 build scripts" It should say "over 21.000 build scripts". IT'S OVER NINE THOUSND!! Due to the incredible power of 9000,

Re: [arch-general] about arch

2010-05-06 Thread Loui Chang
On Thu 06 May 2010 18:08 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: > I was reading the "about" page (http://www.archlinux.org/about/) in > the archlinux website and I noticed that this line is a little > outdated: "Arch also offers an [unsupported] section in the Arch Linux > User Repository (AUR), which con

Re: [arch-general] about arch

2010-05-06 Thread Allan McRae
On 06/05/10 19:15, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 06.05.2010 11:08, schrieb Juan Diego Tascón: And one more question: is there a proposed starting date or a proposed selection procedure or just additional information for the Junior Developer scheme? I sent an email to Allan (@archlinux.org) the day it

Re: [arch-general] about arch

2010-05-06 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 06.05.2010 11:08, schrieb Juan Diego Tascón: > And one more question: is there a proposed starting date or a proposed > selection procedure or just additional information for the Junior > Developer scheme? I sent an email to Allan (@archlinux.org) the day it > opened but I have not received any

[arch-general] about arch

2010-05-06 Thread Juan Diego Tascón
Good day amigos, I was reading the "about" page (http://www.archlinux.org/about/) in the archlinux website and I noticed that this line is a little outdated: "Arch also offers an [unsupported] section in the Arch Linux User Repository (AUR), which contains over 9,000 build scripts" It should say "

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-21 Thread Denis Alessandro Altoe Falqueto
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Arvid Ephraim Picciani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes you are allowed to link dynamicly, now read if you are allowed to run the > linked program. Not speaking of actually distributing it. Strange, why would it be allowed to link and not to run the linked program?

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-21 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Thursday 22 May 2008 00:13:27 Tobias Kieslich wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2008, Denis Alessandro Altoe Falqueto wrote: > > It seems that LZMA lib is licensed with LGPL and has an special > > exception that permits to link (statically or dinamicaly) without > > being bound by the LGPL terms. > > I th

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-21 Thread Tobias Kieslich
On Wed, 21 May 2008, Denis Alessandro Altoe Falqueto wrote: > > It seems that LZMA lib is licensed with LGPL and has an special > exception that permits to link (statically or dinamicaly) without > being bound by the LGPL terms. I thought LGPL permist statically linking anyways, which is why WXw

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-21 Thread Denis Alessandro Altoe Falqueto
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 5:14 AM, Jan de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The > downside is that LZMA is not supported by libarchive, and won't be > supported officially either, because libarchive is BSD licensed and LZMA > is GPL licensed. Hi, It seems that LZMA lib is licensed with LGPL and ha

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-21 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 19:39 +0200, Jan de Groot wrote: > What's the memory usage when unzipping an LZMA file? Is it much higher > than the needs of gzip? We already have problems supporting low-memory > systems with our installer, adding a compression algorithm that eats > more memory will cause

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-21 Thread Xavier
Aaron Griffin wrote: That's actually not entirely true. Dan and I investigated this. The previous low memory issues were caused by the entire install system never leaving the initramfs, and remaining entirely in RAM - which soaked far more than pacman ever will. Additionally, with the dynamic pa

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-21 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Jan de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 18:47 +0300, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 10:14 +0200, Jan de Groot wrote: >> > Pacman itself is ready for .tar.bz2 package files. The whole issue >> > with .bz2 files

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-21 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 18:47 +0300, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 10:14 +0200, Jan de Groot wrote: > > Pacman itself is ready for .tar.bz2 package files. The whole issue > > with .bz2 files is that compression and decompression times increase a > > lot without giving th

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-21 Thread Xavier
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Dimitrios Apostolou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can't this problem be circumvented by spawning the lzma command line > utility, and piping all data to it? I understand that this perhaps > negates the purpose of libarchive, but the overhead should be small. > Tha

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-21 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
Hi, On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 10:14 +0200, Jan de Groot wrote: > Pacman itself is ready for .tar.bz2 package files. The whole issue > with .bz2 files is that compression and decompression times increase a > lot without giving the same amount of size reduction back. We've done > some recent tests with

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-20 Thread Nagy Gabor
Idézés Jan de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 15:55 +0900, Bendany Qian wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I just have a sugguestion about the pkg format. > > > > Currently archlinux is using gzip compress method to pack the > > package, I think it is better to use bzip2. since bzip2 f

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-20 Thread Xavier
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Jan de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pacman itself is ready for .tar.bz2 package files. The whole issue > with .bz2 files is that compression and decompression times increase a > lot without giving the same amount of size reduction back. We've done > some re

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-20 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 15:55 +0900, Bendany Qian wrote: > Hi all > > I just have a sugguestion about the pkg format. > > Currently archlinux is using gzip compress method to pack the > package, I think it is better to use bzip2. since bzip2 format > can save about 10%-20% disk space than gzip. >

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-20 Thread Allan McRae
Bendany Qian wrote: I just have a sugguestion about the pkg format. That is a very common suggestion. See http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/2264 for more information. Allan

[arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-19 Thread Bendany Qian
Hi all I just have a sugguestion about the pkg format. Currently archlinux is using gzip compress method to pack the package, I think it is better to use bzip2. since bzip2 format can save about 10%-20% disk space than gzip. As I know, FreeBSD has already switch its package format from gzip to