Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-03 Thread Pierre Chapuis
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:02:53 -0500, "David C. Rankin" wrote: > I'm not knocking Arch, I'm just trying to explore how much work it > would take to make pacman just a little smarter so it avoids some of > these things. That is what I DON'T know. The work it would take is not the only problem

Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-03 Thread David C. Rankin
On 09/03/2010 01:11 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: That being said, it would probably be possible to implement something like what you seem to be suggesting. I doubt it ever will though, because this IS very much a corner case. Cool -- now that's a clean answer. On to the next improvement idea... -- Da

Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-02 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 23:02 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 09/01/2010 06:08 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > Pacman helps you manage your system, it doesn't (and shouldn't) try to > > make assumptions about stuff like this, because that's your job. You > > know your system better than anyone else (idea

Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-02 Thread David C. Rankin
On 09/01/2010 06:08 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: Pacman helps you manage your system, it doesn't (and shouldn't) try to make assumptions about stuff like this, because that's your job. You know your system better than anyone else (ideally). And your assertion about 'blowing up a 288 package update' is n

Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-02 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 05:39 -0400, Baho Utot wrote: > On 09/01/2010 07:08 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:58 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > >> On 09/01/2010 08:59 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 07:44 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > >>> > but in any even

Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-02 Thread Baho Utot
On 09/01/2010 07:08 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:58 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: On 09/01/2010 08:59 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 07:44 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: but in any event, related or not, dovecot should update without failing due to the existing

Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-01 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 23:35 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 09/01/2010 06:08 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > OK, I'm buying it. What you are telling me is that for 1X there was NO > dovecot.conf (IIRC it was something like dovecot.conf.example because I > compared > something to my suse dovecot.co

Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-01 Thread David C. Rankin
On 09/01/2010 06:08 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:58 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: On 09/01/2010 08:59 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 07:44 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: but in any event, related or not, dovecot should update without failing due to the existing

Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-01 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:58 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 09/01/2010 08:59 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 07:44 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > > > >> but in any event, related or not, > >> dovecot should update without failing due to the existing dovecot.conf > > > > > > T

Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-01 Thread David C. Rankin
On 09/01/2010 08:59 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 07:44 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: but in any event, related or not, dovecot should update without failing due to the existing dovecot.conf The dovecot.conf file was created by you previously, hence why the update is failing.

Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-01 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 07:44 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > but in any event, related or not, > dovecot should update without failing due to the existing dovecot.conf The dovecot.conf file was created by you previously, hence why the update is failing. The new dovecot package provides dovecot.

Re: [arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-01 Thread David C. Rankin
On 09/01/2010 07:44 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, The dovecot update needs to be fixed. Currently, on upgrade you get: checking package integrity... (288/288) checking for file conflicts [#] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) dov

[arch-general] dovecot.conf kills update (conflicting file)

2010-09-01 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, The dovecot update needs to be fixed. Currently, on upgrade you get: checking package integrity... (288/288) checking for file conflicts [#] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) dovecot: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf exists