Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-27 Thread David C. Rankin
On 02/25/2012 01:24 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > But another thing, is there a way to find out what command is exactly run > when pressing things in the gnome-panel? > (For example when I launch suspend from the gnome-panel, what is it executed?) catching a suspend command might be difficult, but fo

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-27 Thread Thiago Coutinho
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Calvin Morrison wrote: > On 26 February 2012 11:56, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: >> There is slim which only depends on gtk2 (mayby some other minor libs >> needed >> by anyother gtk app too) and cdm which is a conole mode login manager :D > > I suggest you just use

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-27 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 26 February 2012 11:56, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: > sunnuntai, 26. helmikuuta 2012 16:39:31 Andrea Crotti kirjoitti: > > Is kdm in kde-workspace-base? > Yeh it is. kdebase-workspace is the correct name of the pkg tought > > If yes it also has quite a lot of dependencies which I don't really ne

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread Jesse Juhani Jaara
sunnuntai, 26. helmikuuta 2012 16:39:31 Andrea Crotti kirjoitti: > Is kdm in kde-workspace-base? Yeh it is. kdebase-workspace is the correct name of the pkg tought > If yes it also has quite a lot of dependencies which I don't really need. > And actually I think I can survive very well without any

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: >> Would it not be easier to switch to KDM or one of the other login >> managers rather than use GDM if you have moved away from Gnome? >> > > Is kdm in kde-workspace-base? > If yes it also has quite a lot of dependencies which I don't really

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 02/26/2012 03:32 PM, mike cloaked wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Andrea Crotti wrote: I'm getting very close to a final solution :) So now the only thing left to do is to make sure that these are executed (this is my .xprofile): if [ -x "$(which gpg-agent)" ]; then if test -

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > I'm getting very close to a final solution :) > > So now the only thing left to do is to make sure that these are executed > (this is my .xprofile): > > if [ -x "$(which gpg-agent)" ]; then >    if test -f $HOME/.gpg-agent-info && \ >      

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread Andrea Crotti
I'm getting very close to a final solution :) So now the only thing left to do is to make sure that these are executed (this is my .xprofile): if [ -x "$(which gpg-agent)" ]; then if test -f $HOME/.gpg-agent-info && \ kill -0 $(cut -d: -f 2 $HOME/.gpg-agent-info) 2>/dev/null th

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread pete
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:57:58 + Andrea Crotti wrote: > On 02/25/2012 09:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > I don't have GNOME installed, but I decided to use GDM. > > > > Isn't there such an entry as I've got: > > > > [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ grep gdm /etc/inittab > > x:5:respawn:/usr/sbin/gd

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 02/26/2012 10:01 AM, Jesse Jaara wrote: I bet you have '5' at the end of your kernel commandline. You won that was it :)

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread Ionut Biru
On 02/26/2012 12:01 PM, Jesse Jaara wrote: > I bet you have '5' at the end of your kernel commandline. or he has both 3 and 5 enabled in inittab :D -- Ionuț signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread Jesse Jaara
I bet you have '5' at the end of your kernel commandline.

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 02/25/2012 09:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I don't have GNOME installed, but I decided to use GDM. Isn't there such an entry as I've got: [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ grep gdm /etc/inittab x:5:respawn:/usr/sbin/gdm -nodaemon - Ralf I had that line, but my interpretation was that if the initd

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 06:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 02:41 +0200, Tasos Latsas wrote: > > On 25/02/12 21:07, Andrea Crotti wrote: > > [...] > > > I would also like to try xmonad finally, but I've never been able to > > > configure it yet. I have an ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs fil

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 02:41 +0200, Tasos Latsas wrote: > On 25/02/12 21:07, Andrea Crotti wrote: > [...] > > I would also like to try xmonad finally, but I've never been able to > > configure it yet. I have an ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs file (the default one > > copied) that compiles perfectly, but if I

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Tasos Latsas
On 25/02/12 21:07, Andrea Crotti wrote: [...] > I would also like to try xmonad finally, but I've never been able to > configure it yet. I have an ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs file (the default one > copied) that compiles perfectly, but if I try a startx the screen just > stays blank, without logging any e

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 22:48 +0200, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: > lauantai, 25. helmikuuta 2012 21:46:03 Ralf Mardorf kirjoitti: > > On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 20:32 +, Andrea Crotti wrote: > > > netfs > > > wicd > > > @alsa > > There's no networkmanager started ;). > But

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 22:27 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 22:13 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 22:05 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > > Hi Andrea, > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Andrea Crotti > > > wrote: > > > > and this in inittab: > > > >

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 22:13 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 22:05 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > Hi Andrea, > > > > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Andrea Crotti > > wrote: > > > and this in inittab: > > > id:3:initdefault: > > > # Boot to X11 > > > # id:5:initdefault: > > >

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 22:05 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Andrea Crotti > wrote: > > and this in inittab: > > id:3:initdefault: > > # Boot to X11 > > # id:5:initdefault: > > > > after rebooting GDM still fires up!! But how come? What is firing it up

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi Andrea, On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > and this in inittab: > id:3:initdefault: > # Boot to X11 > # id:5:initdefault: > > after rebooting GDM still fires up!! But how come? What is firing it up? Depends on what else is in your inittab file. By default nothing in initt

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Jesse Juhani Jaara
lauantai, 25. helmikuuta 2012 21:46:03 Ralf Mardorf kirjoitti: > On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 20:32 +, Andrea Crotti wrote: > > netfs > > wicd > > @alsa > There's no networkmanager started ;). But he told he has also tried wicd and he has wicd in the daemons list :D sign

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 20:32 +, Andrea Crotti wrote: > >> Now the next problem is that networkmanager doesn't see any networks > DAEMONS=(dbus > acpid > netfs > wicd > @alsa > @bluetooth > @crond > @cupsd > @iptables

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 02/25/2012 08:12 PM, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: lauantai, 25. helmikuuta 2012 20:06:28 Andrea Crotti kirjoitti: Now the next problem is that networkmanager doesn't see any networks, and wicd tries to connect but the password is refused. I think this again has something to do with ConsoleKit a

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Jesse Juhani Jaara
lauantai, 25. helmikuuta 2012 20:06:28 Andrea Crotti kirjoitti: > Now the next problem is that networkmanager doesn't see any networks, > and wicd tries to connect but > the password is refused. > I think this again has something to do with ConsoleKit and the policies, > is that correct? Don't kn

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 02/25/2012 07:54 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The OP asked for what GNOME does to fulfill his needs. My interpretation of the original post is, that the OP decided to use a WM without the DE GNOME, so you are talking about what he has experienced with GNOME and what he should adopt if he moves a

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 21:33 +0200, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: > lauantai, 25. helmikuuta 2012 21:26:51 Mantas M. kirjoitti: > > The actions upon lid closing are part of GNOME's settings. In GNOME 3.1, > > power management is done by the "power" plugin of gnome-settings-daemon. > > Sure in Gnome, bu

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 02/25/2012 12:07 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > I would like to move away from Gnome, which I don't need at all since I > only need to launch: > - emacs > - conkeror > - thunderbird > - gnome-terminal > > and I don't even use the menu but Alt-f2 for that. > The main problem though is that on this l

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Jesse Juhani Jaara
lauantai, 25. helmikuuta 2012 21:26:51 Mantas M. kirjoitti: > The actions upon lid closing are part of GNOME's settings. In GNOME 3.1, > power management is done by the "power" plugin of gnome-settings-daemon. Sure in Gnome, but we are talking about power-management outside Gnome here, which DOES

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Mantas M.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 07:24:25PM +, Andrea Crotti wrote: > On 02/25/2012 07:22 PM, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: > >lauantai, 25. helmikuuta 2012 20:19:31 Jan Steffens kirjoitti: > >>Probably gnome-settings-daemon > >The GNOME Settings Daemon is responsible for setting various parameters of a > >

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Mantas M.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 09:22:53PM +0200, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: > lauantai, 25. helmikuuta 2012 20:19:31 Jan Steffens kirjoitti: > > Probably gnome-settings-daemon > The GNOME Settings Daemon is responsible for setting various parameters of a > GNOME Session and the applications that run under

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 02/25/2012 07:22 PM, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: lauantai, 25. helmikuuta 2012 20:19:31 Jan Steffens kirjoitti: Probably gnome-settings-daemon The GNOME Settings Daemon is responsible for setting various parameters of a GNOME Session and the applications that run under it. Short: is the GConf

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Mantas M.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 07:07:21PM +, Andrea Crotti wrote: > The strange thing is that if I am in a gnome-session closing the lid or > calling suspend from the gnome menu everything works. > > But if I fire up awesome only then closing the lid doesn't work anymore. > > So the question is, wha

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Jesse Juhani Jaara
lauantai, 25. helmikuuta 2012 20:19:31 Jan Steffens kirjoitti: > Probably gnome-settings-daemon The GNOME Settings Daemon is responsible for setting various parameters of a GNOME Session and the applications that run under it. Short: is the GConf X settings daemon. Sure it launches that but is

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Jan Steffens
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > I would like to move away from Gnome, which I don't need at all since I > only need to launch: > - emacs > - conkeror > - thunderbird > - gnome-terminal > > and I don't even use the menu but Alt-f2 for that. > The main problem though is that

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Jesse Juhani Jaara
lauantai, 25. helmikuuta 2012 19:07:21 Andrea Crotti kirjoitti: > So the question is, what is gnome magically firing up that other window > managers don't? Gnome and KDE, probably Xfce too has a build in powersaving daemon which they use to observe the system ACPI events like "laptop screen clos

[arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-25 Thread Andrea Crotti
I would like to move away from Gnome, which I don't need at all since I only need to launch: - emacs - conkeror - thunderbird - gnome-terminal and I don't even use the menu but Alt-f2 for that. The main problem though is that on this laptop (a dell latitude E6420) if I'm not using gnome I can't m