Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-10 Thread Joe(theWordy)Philbrook
It would appear that on Dec 9, fredbezies did say: > If you have a nvidia chipset, you can use nouveau driver with gnome 3. > See Fedora for example ;) Pardon me for intruding on your discussion "fredbezies" but I really wish people wouldn't assume that nouveau works for everyone... My current

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
> Actually, it did. (http://www.trinitydesktop.org/about.php) It just > hasn't really gained too much critical mass. (Yet?) > > +++ Wow... I leaved kde whe it abandon kde3... I did not like the kde4 system. FreeBSD still have kde3 running and well... Thank you for the informtion

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of David Rosenstrauch Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 21:47 On 12/08/2011 05:23 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > KDE3 had no comeback Actually, it did. (http://www.trinitydesktop.org/about.php) It just hasn't really gained too much cr

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 12/08/2011 05:23 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: KDE3 had no comeback Actually, it did. (http://www.trinitydesktop.org/about.php) It just hasn't really gained too much critical mass. (Yet?) DR

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 12/09/2011 07:45 AM, Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana wrote: But IMHO XFCE misses some neat features like a decent power manager. Just curious - what's your issue with the XFCE power manager? It's fairly minimal (which is not a bad thing, IMO) and always worked fine for me. DR

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux, xfce is the way in?

2011-12-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:20:39 +0100 Jelle van der Waa wrote: >> I don't like BSD, especially for modern environments. Linux has a more >> modern architecture; I love the system, but i must admit that in 2011 it >> isn't efficient anymore. (And BSD has troubles with drivers :( ) >> > Can't we dis

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux, xfce is the way in?

2011-12-09 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 09/12/11 14:16, Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana wrote: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi < > lenzi.ser...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I will be testing xfce this week on a fresh generated FreeBSD 9.0 >> > > I don't like BSD, especially for modern environments. Linux has a m

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux, xfce is the way in?

2011-12-09 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi < lenzi.ser...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I will be testing xfce this week on a fresh generated FreeBSD 9.0 > I don't like BSD, especially for modern environments. Linux has a more modern architecture; I love the system, but i must admit that

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:54:30 +0100 > schrieb "Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana" : I hope this will not happen. I never liked Gnome for a lot of reasons, > and KDE4 and the fact that Xfce is so different from Gnome was the > reason for switching t

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:54:30 +0100 schrieb "Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana" : > By the way, XFCE 4.10 will hopefully include some neat features from > GNOME 2.3x aiming to be a successor and a safe choice for GNOME 2.x > refugees. Just previsions :) I hope this will not happen. I never liked Gnome f

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > Will that effect xfce-gnome compatibility? > I believe so. But XFCE developers will fix that in time for the next release; I believe they're waiting for this right now to be ready to patch softwares in the last chunk of development cycle f

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:52:51 +0100 fredbezies wrote: > Gnome 2 is a dead end on technology side. Main programs will sooner or > later move to gtk3. Will that effect xfce-gnome compatibility? Kc

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > 0.02€, > > Ralf > You won man. :D Salud, Bl@ster

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of fredbezies Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 08:52 If you have a nvidia chipset, you can use nouveau driver with gnome 3. +++ Unfortunately a lot of people can't use nouveau for audio productions. For my 7200 GS this driver comp

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-08 Thread fredbezies
2011/12/9 Ralf Mardorf : [...] > > I think you're wrong, completely wrong. Gnome 2 and Mate are dead-end. > If you think gnome 3 suck, so gnome 3 users suck too. Thank you. > > +++ > > Frederic :), this is a bad conclusion. There's nothing wrong with a user who > is comfortable with GNOME 3. It's

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of fredbezies Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 07:35 2011/12/8 Ralf Mardorf : > -Original Message- > From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr. > Sent: Thu 12/8/2011 21:24 > > The war was ov

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-08 Thread fredbezies
2011/12/8 Ralf Mardorf : > -Original Message- > From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr. > Sent: Thu 12/8/2011 21:24 > > The war was over when people realized that Xfce wasn't so bad. I actually > prefer it to KDE. Even though it would be a hassle to chan

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
FWIW currently I'm a little bit lazy and instead of recovering lost data or to solve my Internet issue for Arch, I'm running a Parted Magic Live CD just to have some fun. It ships with LXDE, IMO another good replacement for GNOME. Enlightenment IMO is garbage, but perhaps Fluxbox is enhanced, did

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-08 Thread Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
2011/12/8 Angel Velásquez > > Good for you!, but you can have several DE, or WM in Linux world. > > So, eventually, you should "evolve" and not be tied to just one of > them ;). I switched to KDE, and I'm giving GNOME a chance every time it hits a new release. Unfortunately, that isn't "my" DE a

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr. Sent: Thu 12/8/2011 21:24 The war was over when people realized that Xfce wasn't so bad. I actually prefer it to KDE. Even though it would be a hassle to change over. +++ Xfce IMO is a good r

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-08 Thread Angel Velásquez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/12/11 16:50, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Hello Archlinux users... After almost a year without using linux, I > read a news, telling me that the gnome 2 is back, now there is > Mate, in the aur repository... > > It is time to celebrate, my n

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-08 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Hello Archlinux users... > After almost a year without using linux, > I read a news, telling me that the gnome 2 is back, > now there is Mate, in the aur repository... Just remember it's not supported by Arch devs etc. It has it's o

Re: [arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

2011-12-08 Thread Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr.
The war was over when people realized that Xfce wasn't so bad. I actually prefer it to KDE. Even though it would be a hassle to change over. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi < lenzi.ser...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Archlinux users... > After almost a year without using linu