Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread Paul
We are an ISP. Will 4 different non-contiguous blocks be counted as 1 or 4 blocks for fees. Or is the block count the total of all combined /24's that we would get allocated? So a /22 (or 4 /24's) plus a /40 plus ASN for an ISP would be $500 annually? Thanks On 8/11/2015 11:22 PM, Jason Sc

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread Jason Schiller
For ISPs a /22 is billed at XX-small at $500 annually. (this includes ASNs and membership vote) adding up to a /40 keeps the ISP in the XX-small category and does not change the annual fee. An IPv4 /32 bumps the ISP up to a small with an annual fee of $2,000. (a $1,500 increase). (If the ISP alr

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread Matthew Kaufman
> On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Tom Samplonius wrote: > > >> On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Paul wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> We are getting ready to lose a /22 and /23 and 2 /24's when we switch from >> microwave data center providers >> to fiber for our ISP that the data centers have been pro

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread josh
David, Thank very much for taking the time to respond and with so much detail. It is very helpful information. I noticed I had a typo on our current allocation, /22 is what we have not /21. Regardless, I understand what you're saying as to engineer it properly so that as ipv6 adoption and serv

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread Tom Samplonius
> On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Paul wrote: > > Hello > > We are getting ready to lose a /22 and /23 and 2 /24's when we switch from > microwave data center providers > to fiber for our ISP that the data centers have been providing for us since > the dial-up days . > /22 and /23 are no longer

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread Paul
Hello We are getting ready to lose a /22 and /23 and 2 /24's when we switch from microwave data center providers to fiber for our ISP that the data centers have been providing for us since the dial-up days . /22 and /23 are no longer available. Will we have to pay the $100 annual fee on each /

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread David Huberman
Hi Josh, If you have a /21 allocation from ARIN, then you are paying them $1,000 a year in a subscription fee. That covers your AS number, and your /21, and it gives you membership to vote. If you want, you can request a /36 of IPv6 from ARIN, and it will come at no extra charge. There will

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread josh
Well here's my scenario. My ISP is in the process of acquiring another ISP, I wrote into arin for advice of how to go about requesting additional ip space as the acquisition will take more IP addresses then what we have left out of our current /21 allotment. I was advised to apply asap however

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I had thought that at one point the IPv6 allocation was free for ISPs, but that deal expired at one point and it was now up to us to pay for both allocations. I'm not complaining, just seeking clarification since we're talking about getting IPv6 eligibility, costs, etc. - Mike Hammett I

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread Randy Carpenter
- On Aug 11, 2015, at 8:43 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: > On 8/11/15 14:43, Alfie Cleveland wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I’m requesting comment in regards to automatically make organisations >> eligible for IPv6 if they hold justified IPv4 space. This similar to >> Section 9.3.1. of

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/11/15 14:43, Alfie Cleveland wrote: Hello, I’m requesting comment in regards to automatically make organisations eligible for IPv6 if they hold justified IPv4 space. This similar to Section 9.3.1. of the [APNIC-127] APNIC Internet Number Resource Policies. I feel that if organisations were

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread Alfie Cleveland
John - Apologies if I wasn’t entirely clear. As referenced in Section 9.3.1. of the APNIC INPP, I propose that this also applies to end users - allowing end users to, free of charge, receive a /48 for each /24 they hold. Regards, Alfie > On 11 Aug 2015, at 23:01, John Curran wrote: > > On A

Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread John Curran
On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Alfie Cleveland mailto:al...@me.com>> wrote: Hello, I’m requesting comment in regards to automatically make organisations eligible for IPv6 if they hold justified IPv4 space. This similar to Section 9.3.1. of the [APNIC-127] APNIC Internet Number Resource Policies

[arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility

2015-08-11 Thread Alfie Cleveland
Hello, I’m requesting comment in regards to automatically make organisations eligible for IPv6 if they hold justified IPv4 space. This similar to Section 9.3.1. of the [APNIC-127] APNIC Internet Number Resource Policies. I feel that if organisations were able to receive a /48 for each /24 they