Hello John
Thank for your comment.
You are right that 2050 has been obsoleted by 7020, however 7020 is much
shorter and doesn't contain much of the points and basis of 2050. That
doesn't necessarily mean that 7020 invalidated everything that was not
repeated 'ipsis literis' as it was in 2050.
Sticking to the actual draft policy which is being proposed, in a world of
IPv4 shortages I think that any available numbers available for directed
transfer continue the current policy of "operational use" in order to
receive IPv4 directed transfer addresses. The proposal would allow the
numbe
Hi Fernando,
You asked me some questions so I will reply to them inline, and because we have
drifted, this will be my last post on this directly. I mentioned 2050 to
highlight the unchanging stewardship requirements, conservation and
registration, as an effort to demonstrate that your attemp
Please note that RFC2050 has be obsoleted by RFC7020
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2050
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7020
So you are arguing about a document that is no longer controlling.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 4:23 PM Fernando Frediani
wrote:
> On 30/09/2019 18:06, Mike Burns wrote:
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On 30 Sep 2019, at 4:23 PM, Fernando Frediani
mailto:fhfredi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
...
It also says: "ISPs are required to utilize address space in an efficient
manner. To this end, ISPs should have documented justification available for
each assignment. The regional registry may, at any time,
We may eventually get to that point of ARIN being a registration only
operation, but I do not think we are there.
In the beginning of IPv4 it was a registration only operation with no
fees, and it was in those days easy to get a class A or B assigned to you
with little effort or cost. Most of
On 30/09/2019 18:06, Mike Burns wrote:
Hi Fernando,
Let me address the two items highlighted in your reply below.
First is the reduction of ARIN to nothing more than a registration operation.
What is wrong with that? RFC2050 said the primary purpose of an RIR is
registration. We need to keep
Hi Fernando,
Let me address the two items highlighted in your reply below.
First is the reduction of ARIN to nothing more than a registration operation.
What is wrong with that? RFC2050 said the primary purpose of an RIR is
registration. We need to keep the numbers unique or everything fails. A
On 30/09/2019 15:36, hostmas...@uneedus.com wrote:
Currently, the ability to obtain IPv4 resources is constrained by the
requirement to prove to ARIN that you need the addresses for your
operational use in a network, which will be claimed to be no unneeded
once the "operational use" requiremen
Hello
Why do you use the term "purchase 'RIR' addresses" ? They don't sold
them and never did it. Most here know well that what we pay are
administrative fees and we are resource holders. Therefore there is no
selling of addresses by RIRs as they don't manufacture them.
With regards address
Hi Albert,
Thank you for your thoughtful post and sharing your relevant experience.
I also have relevant experience here, as a broker of nearly 800 transfers
around the world, a broker of leases, a lessor, an ARIN legacy and RSA resource
holder and member and a RIPE legacy and RSA resource holde
I guess I need to use a larger font size and/or get new glasses so I can
read the emails I'm composing, that should have been "Staff Understanding".
Getting older, sucks!!
Also see;
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_10/
Sorry for the confusion!!
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:45 PM
I suspect the reason that RIPE address space has not been abused to the
extent of ARIN registered space is that a lot of operators already are
blocking non ARIN space in their networks, and the abusers are choosing
not to lease there.
As an example, I host a BBS type operation for a community
Hi Albert,
You can't just wave away RIPE's experience like that.
I raised it to dispel the idea that a "free for all" leads to bad results.
All the rest of your post is hand-waving of supposed bad results.
If bad results will ensue, where are they at RIPE?
Can you answer that simple question?
Re
I have a question regarding the Staff Understating of the policy from the
Staff and Legal Assessment of the policy, which says the following;
Staff understands the intent of the draft policy is to clarify handling of
mergers and acquisition transfer processing between RIRs who have
compatible tran
Like Fernando I am also strongly opposed to the leasing of IPv4 addresses
and oppose getting rid of the "operational use" requirement in 8.5.2.
I really DO NOT CARE what RIPE policy is, since we are discussing ARIN
policy on this list. I do not agree with RIPE policy on this subject, and
have
Hi Fernando,
You said “RIR is and has always been the one who drives the resources to be
efficientlly assigned by analysing justifications not private transfer
companies. If an organization is not using resouces efficiently it either may
change its resource assignment strategy otherwise it d
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