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2019-10-10 Thread David Farmer
In re-reading the staff comments for ARIN-2019-10, I would support the staff's recommendations to instead make changes within section 8.4 instead of 8.2, but that is not what the current policy text as written does. As written I believe the new text is independent of section 8.4 and would allow IPv

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2019-10-10 Thread narten
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2019-10-10 Thread David Farmer
I'm fine with what Staff has been doing, the current inter-RIR policy in section 8.4 clearly doesn't allow IPv6 transfers. However, the new text added to section 8.2 seems to clearly allow inter-RIR M&A transfers independent of what section 8.4 has to say and its exclusion of IPv6. Current M&A tra

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2019-10-10 Thread Owen DeLong
Are you asking why the proposed policy doesn’t effect this change to current staff action, or are you asking why staff action didn’t change when they started accepting 8.2-based inter-RIR transfers without a policy change? Owen > On Sep 30, 2019, at 11:45 , David Farmer wrote: > > I have a q

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-18: LIR/ISP Re-Assignment to Non-Connected Networks

2019-10-10 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 15:13 , David Farmer wrote: > > Because of an off-list conversation I'd like to add I think the expectations > of RFC2008 still exist in our policy manual today; > > 4.2.1.1. Purpose > > ARIN allocates blocks of IP addresses to ISPs for the purpose of reassigning > and

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-18: LIR/ISP Re-Assignment to Non-Connected Networks

2019-10-10 Thread Owen DeLong
> Second is the point that one of the business cases for leasing is for > spamming. This is something to consider, but I would like for you to put > yourself into the position of a Lessor. The Lessor knows his blocks will > lose value if they are blacklisted, so they take steps to mitigate this

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-18: LIR/ISP Re-Assignment to Non-Connected Networks

2019-10-10 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Sep 30, 2019, at 11:02 , Mike Burns wrote: > > Hi Fernando, > > You said “RIR is and has always been the one who drives the resources to be > efficientlly assigned by analysing justifications not private transfer > companies. If an organization is not using resouces efficiently it eith

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-18: LIR/ISP Re-Assignment to Non-Connected Networks

2019-10-10 Thread Owen DeLong
Neither in favor nor opposed to the intent of the proposal at this time. I can see both sides… Allowing this would potentially increase whois accuracy since currently leases are happening without recording or registration. Allowing this would encourage/normalize this behavior which seems, more o