Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread John Santos
I do not support this policy or petition. I also don't understand why organizations desiring more than a very small block have any reasonable expectation of it ever being available from the wait list. It's like demanding a reserved seat in one of the lifeboats that the Titanic would have had

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN Mailing List Appropriate Usage Policy (ARIN ML AUP)

2021-01-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Hoo-whee I can't wait to see what happens when Parler puts in a request for an IP block... ;-) Ted On 1/11/2021 8:02 PM, sc...@solarnetone.org wrote: Hi All, Does not this type of thing tend to self-regulate? I mean, behaving in a hostile fashion is going to make it very difficult to find pee

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN Mailing List Appropriate Usage Policy (ARIN ML AUP)

2021-01-11 Thread scott
Hi All, Does not this type of thing tend to self-regulate? I mean, behaving in a hostile fashion is going to make it very difficult to find peers willing to help you grow your network, no? Scott On Mon, 11 Jan 2021, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 1/11/21 7:22 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 1/11/2

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN Mailing List Appropriate Usage Policy (ARIN ML AUP)

2021-01-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/11/21 7:22 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 1/11/21 7:01 PM, John Curran wrote: Good Evening - As a reminder, participants on PPML are well-advised to focus their discussion on the policies under consideration and refrain from foul language, personal character attacks, or disrespect for othe

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN Mailing List Appropriate Usage Policy (ARIN ML AUP)

2021-01-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/11/21 7:01 PM, John Curran wrote: Good Evening - As a reminder, participants on PPML are well-advised to focus their discussion on the policies under consideration and refrain from foul language, personal character attacks, or disrespect for other participants. I was told offlist that

[arin-ppml] ARIN Mailing List Appropriate Usage Policy (ARIN ML AUP)

2021-01-11 Thread John Curran
Good Evening - As a reminder, participants on PPML are well-advised to focus their discussion on the policies under consideration and refrain from foul language, personal character attacks, or disrespect for other participants. This is required by the ARIN Mailing list Acceptable Use Policy, wh

Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread John Curran
On 11 Jan 2021, at 10:35 AM, Fernando Frediani mailto:fhfredi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Obviously anyone has the right to petition, but I am trying to understand the intent of this appeal. Make the Board of Trustees to push something that haven't had enough support from the community ? Fernando -

Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/11/21 6:20 PM, David Farmer wrote: During the AC's November 19th meeting, they voted 8 in favor, to 6 against, to recommend this policy to the Board, nevertheless, the motion failed as the PDP requires 10 votes in favor by the AC to recommend adoption of a policy to the Board. I think th

Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread Chris Rogers
I oppose this petition. -Chris On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 6:21 PM David Farmer wrote: > There is neither overwhelming support nor overwhelming opposition to this > policy. There seems to be more support than opposition, however, the level > of opposition in my opinion makes adopting the policy at

Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread Michael B. Williams
I do not support this policy or petition. It's very simple; a small group of people stand to gain from 2020-2 at the expense of the broader community. It is in no way fair. Those pushing for this policy need to accept that they're not entitled to anymore than the rest of us. Regards, Michael O

Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread David Farmer
There is neither overwhelming support nor overwhelming opposition to this policy. There seems to be more support than opposition, however, the level of opposition in my opinion makes adopting the policy at this time troublesome. The only thing that seems clear to me, this is a very contentious poli

Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/11/21 07:35, Fernando Frediani wrote: Obviously anyone has the right to petition,  but I am trying to understand the intent of this appeal. Make the Board of Trustees to push something that haven't had enough support from the community ? I can't help but feeling specifically targeted by

Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread Steven Ryerse
I support this petition. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2021, at 8:40 PM, Robert Clarke wrote:  I do not support this policy or petition. It's very simple; a small group of people stand to gain from 2020-2 at the expense of the broader community. It is in no way fair and I'm happy to see th

Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread Robert Clarke
I do not support this policy or petition. It's very simple; a small group of people stand to gain from 2020-2 at the expense of the broader community. It is in no way fair and I'm happy to see this was shot down by the advisory council. Those pushing for this policy need to accept that they're

Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
I opposed this policy and DO NOT support this petition. By our unofficial count of the PPML, there were 30 different organizations that supported this proposal and 13 that did not. Of the 13 voices of dissent, 6 did not voice a word of dissent until last call. That is almost 50% o

Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread Mike Burns
I support the petition. Regards, Mike Burns IPTrading.com From: ARIN-PPML On Behalf Of Fernando Frediani Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:35 AM To: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed

Re: [arin-ppml] Board of Trustees Consideration Petition for ARIN -2020 -2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16

2021-01-11 Thread Fernando Frediani
Obviously anyone has the right to petition,  but I am trying to understand the intent of this appeal. Make the Board of Trustees to push something that haven't had enough support from the community ? It may meet some minimal criteria to be a proposal and be discussed but it didn't reach enough

Re: [arin-ppml] Open Petition for ARIN-2020-2

2021-01-11 Thread Brandt, Jason
I am in support of this petition. Jason Brandt Pearl Insurance Jason Brandt Senior Systems Engineer Pearl Companies | 1200 E Glen Ave Peoria Heights, IL 61616 P: 309.679.0184 F: 309.688.5444 E: jason.bra...@pearlcompanies.com www.pearlcompanies.com | Insurance - Technology - Automotive PEARL CO

[arin-ppml] Open Petition for ARIN-2020-2

2021-01-11 Thread ARIN
A petition has been initiated for the following: ARIN-2020-2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16 ARIN-2020-2 reverted to Draft Policy on 6 January following a Last Call period. Per ARIN's Policy Development Process (PDP), all Recommended