Re: [arin-ppml] Wait List Space - Feedback Requested

2023-01-27 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 1:35 PM WOOD Alison * DAS wrote: > The Policy Experience Working Group would like your feedback > on a potential policy idea: With waiting list times being in years, > should an org be eligible to get a small block (e.g. /24) via 8.3/8.4 > and stay on the waiting list? I d

Re: [arin-ppml] Wait List Space - Feedback Requested

2023-01-27 Thread Scott Leibrand
If the requestor's use case works with sub-/24, they can request it. If they want a /24, they can request that. I agree there are lots of use cases for which /24 is a de facto minimum (even for MDN when you have a larger covering aggregate you can announce). But there are some use cases for which s

Re: [arin-ppml] Wait List Space - Feedback Requested

2023-01-27 Thread Justin Wilson
The problem is everyone has their filters set to not accept smaller than /24s.  It sounds like a simple fix but it’s like herding cats. Justin Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 27, 2023, at 9:03 PM, Scott Leibrand wrote:IMO orgs who can get by with a smaller block should be able to request one (with no l

Re: [arin-ppml] Wait List Space - Feedback Requested

2023-01-27 Thread Scott Leibrand
IMO orgs who can get by with a smaller block should be able to request one (with no lower limit: if they really want a /25, they should be able to ask for that). But orgs who receive a block should be removed from the waiting list and must reapply to rejoin it, putting them at the back of the list.

Re: [arin-ppml] Wait List Space - Feedback Requested

2023-01-27 Thread Justin Wilson
I posted a tread to the NANOG list along these lines. There are many (in the dozens) of networks I run across wanting to participate in BGP.  They don’t need a /24 but that is the accepted norm. It would be a major undertaking to have people change filters.   I think modern routers could accommodat

Re: [arin-ppml] Wait List Space - Feedback Requested

2023-01-27 Thread Fernando Frediani
Hello My answer is absolutely not to stay in the waiting list. Waiting list should not be a hope for majority that are there, only for those who have very little and may be able to wait as long as necessary to get a few more to keep going with their business. Any other needs that cannot wait

[arin-ppml] Wait List Space - Feedback Requested

2023-01-27 Thread WOOD Alison * DAS
Hello! The Policy Experience Report Working Group has been working on the Policy Experience Report from ARIN 50. I would appreciate your feedback on the following issue regarding transferring waitlist space. The current wait list criteria is: * Must have a /20 or less in total IPv4 hol