Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-14: Removing Needs Test from Small IPv4 Transfers

than 2014-17. Can you please confirm that and, if so, repost it in the appropriate thread? The comments below seem unrelated to 2014-17 (Change Utilization Requirements from last-allocation to total-aggreagate). Owne On Jun 10, 2014, at 13:27 , Elvis Velea wrote: Hi Andrew, after an other

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

justified need doesn't mean that folks haven't accepted that there would be a market. Thanks! Cathy On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Elvis Velea <mailto:el...@velea.eu>> wrote: On 10/06/14 22:15, l...@mwtcorp.net <mailto:l...@mwtcorp.net> wrote:

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

On 10/06/14 22:15, l...@mwtcorp.net wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:11:15 + Steven Ryerse wrote: Get used to it because even if this Community doesn’t relent and ease up on needs requirements, the marketplace will take up the slack outside of ARIN - and a 2nd (or more) defacto marketplace

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-17: Change Utilization Requirements from last-allocation to total-aggregate

Hi Andrew, after an other read of the policy proposal, I now understand that removal of demonstrated need from policy would be a secondary effect. You were actually trying to reduce the load on the ARIN Registration Department's work and reduce approval time. I am wondering if ARIN RS staff

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

Hi Cathy, McTim, On 05/06/14 16:10, McTim wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:42 AM, CJ Aronson > wrote: Elvis.. I am sure with any policy folks will try to game the system. You are right, I referred to a workaround that would game the system, but there is n

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

pe.net/lir-services/member-support/become-a-member/application You'll have to apply and see. If you want more than a /22 you'll have to go to the transfer market. Cathy On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Elvis Velea mailto:el...@velea.eu>> wrote: Hi

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

Hi David, On 05/06/14 04:59, David Miller wrote: On 6/4/2014 10:41 PM, Elvis Velea wrote: Hi Cathy, On 05/06/14 04:31, CJ Aronson wrote: Let's be clear.. the RIPE NCC will only give a one-time /22 for your 1600 Euros/year. RIPE has always made applicants prove a business presense i

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

Hi David, On 05/06/14 04:50, David Miller wrote: Proper stewardship of the ARIN function demands that ARIN policy adjust to what happens in the market. It's not the other way around, if only because that's not how markets work. If, and only if, one redefines ARIN's function as *only* bookkeepin

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

Hi Cathy, On 05/06/14 04:31, CJ Aronson wrote: Let's be clear.. the RIPE NCC will only give a one-time /22 for your 1600 Euros/year. RIPE has always made applicants prove a business presense in the region and I believe that's what the " * The name of the "Chamber of Commerce" where yo

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

ly for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. -Original Message- From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Elvis Velea Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:35 PM To: David Huberman Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml]

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

and that IETF should review the situation. David R Huberman Microsoft Corporation Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS) From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net on behalf of Elvis Velea Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:21:52 PM To: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [ar

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

Hi David, On 05/06/14 02:21, David Huberman wrote: We're going to be a cross-roads very soon. ARIN is going to exhaust, and network operators will be unable to obtain additional IPv4 address blocks from ARIN. At that point, the most obvious solution for IPv4 needs will be the market. And

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

Hi, On 05/06/14 03:10, Matthew Kaufman wrote: On 6/4/14, 5:13 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: It is, however, equally obvious that a sizable portion of the community, not merely myself, does not want to eliminate the needs test. For the extremely limited version of "the community" which consists of

Re: [arin-ppml] IANA advice re: Post Exhaustion IPv4 Allocation

Hi, On 04/12/13 20:06, Owen DeLong wrote: I don't think waiting 6 months makes much sense. +1 I see no point in waiting 6 additional months after an RIR has reached it's last /9. cheers, elvis Owen On Dec 4, 2013, at 05:07 , Jason Schiller mailto:jschil...@google.com>> wrote: I wante