who will speculate in address
resources for fun and profit or not?
Further, how does it in any way assure that
> the transfer is from a place of less need to a place of greater need rather
> than a place of limited need to a place of greater monetary resources?
>
it does not.
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Mike Burns wrote:
> The existence of your company and other "brokers" isn't evidence enough that
> people want to make money solely by buying and selling v4 resources?
>
> Methinks you fail to see the forest for the trees!
>
>
es?
Methinks you fail to see the forest for the trees!
Regards,
McTim
>
>
> I support this overdue relaxing of outdated inhibitors to normal business
> practices and to accurate registration.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Sent from my Sprint phone
>
>
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will) in re: IP resource
distribution.
Regards,
McTim
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Leif Sawyer wrote:
> Good afternoon -
>
> Based on feedback from Montreal as well as internal discussions, I've
> reworked this policy.
> AC members and ARIN staff are looking for additional f
a /24 and you had to use it prior to getting
> more.
>
>
+1
> I could certainly get on board if there were some other tangible and
> verifiable claim to show there was a real commitment to use half the
> address space within one year.
>
>
Would this language suffice, or woul
I have to agree with Owen, I just got my first v4 request from ARIN
approved for a small org.
Wasn't hard, wasn't burdensome.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> I'm sorry, but your argument is utterly specious.
>
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e such a policy and see if you can get agreement from
the community.
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"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
i
d) that ARIN's process is a burden in any
> form. It's fair and equitable as far as I'm concerned. The process is the
> same no matter what size you are, albeit the fees will come out different.
Agreed. I am also opposed to 2014-18.
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On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Kevin Kargel wrote:
> I want one!
> Kevin
me too, and a pony please!
Opposed for the reasons that Gary has given.
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"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there.&q
a /13 (524,288 addresses),
have been inter-regional from ARIN to APNIC."
So where is the flood of transfer requests mentioned in the Problem Statement?
I don't see it.
If RS says it is a problem, I'd be happy to believe them, but I've
never known them to complain about worklo
subsequent transfer requests and a requirement for team review of
these, is spending scarce staff time on needs testing of small
transfers..."
Do you have evidence from Registration Services that it is a "real problem"?
The data you provide on the link above doesn't show this a
ndocumented (grey or black market)
transfers, those numbers would be extraordinarily useful in seeing the
problem statement clearly.
No clue how to gauge these numbers however!
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route indicates how we get there
good net-citizenship where entities have
returned large blocks (even entire /8's) in recent years.
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than getting the space from the
RIR.
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indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Steven Ryerse wrote:
> Wow! A whole /24 – that’s pretty generous of
eliminating needs assessment at a /24
boundary is plenty of compromise.
See Andrew Dul's most recent mail for possible scenario's.
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>
> The
You have to do a better job of explaining why it is "fair" to force a willing
> seller and a willing buyer to submit to an additional step when that step
> both limits the quantity of resources available for transfer and raises the
> cost of participating in the market by a substantial
around, if
>>>> only because that's not how markets work.
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>> >> The ARIN CEO, ARIN's General Counsel, the Harvard economist ARIN
>>>> pays, professors who study markets, brokers who opera
he risk
> to whois accuracy is any greater without this proposal than it is with it.
> Those that would ignore ARIN policy to effectuate a transfer are just as
> likely IMHO to ignore whois as not.
>
> > And secondarily, what size of un-needs tested transfer would be an
> accept
he move to lower the /20 will help in getting IP(s) to real end
> users, instead of 'speculators'..
>
> But we also need to give ARIN teeth do something about companies who aren't
> operating in accordance with guidelines..
>
> But I doubt you will get consensus t
k for a
> solution.
http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/700-no-reverse-unless-assigned
Is one possible solution.
I wrote it in less time than it took to read this entire thread, and
meant it as a straw-man, but folks seemed to like it.
YMMV.
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o better resolve this?
>
Apologies if I have missed the obvious, but have you thought about applying
for End-User space? It seems like these resources are for your internal
network.
https://www.arin.net/resources/request/ipv4_initial_assign.html
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the AFRINIC region which
does not allow for reverse delegation to be done by the RIR until
assignments are made under the allocation. Since this is a new
policy, there are no numbers available yet to determine if this will
have any impact on registry accuracy.
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&q
d to be able to demonstrate in a
> reasonable way that they are a larger org with a network size that justifies
> a larger allocation.
Which is what is meant by "needs based" allocation if I am not mistaken.
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ers were unwilling to sign any agreement
> which technically
> allowed ARIN to de-register address space that they had without their consent.
>
> One of the concessions made over time was language in the RSA documents which
> removed that concern; it prohibits ARIN from forcibly taking
is a challenge enough, and with the dearth of IP, it seems
> that there are many cases for reclaimation's.
>
> It can allow a loophole where people can hold on the the valuable resource,
> and just play the transfer game ..
to be avoided!
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"right sized".
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> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 11 October 2013 and decided to
> send the following draft policy to last call:
>
> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles
I am happy to support 2013-4.
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upport the principle of uniqueness (Registration)?
certainly!
>
> 4) Do you support the goal of balancing these principles with each
> other under the overarching principle of Stewardship?
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t; shift from people with a surplus to people who actually need them.
but if they need them, it's not hard to show that need! As someone
who has been both the requester and the bureaucrat, I would
characterize the "friction" as insignificant.
> It is the current system that is c
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