Cool, thanks for the clarification
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On Apr 1, 2014, at 1:35 PM, "Jesse Geddis"
mailto:je...@la-broadband.com>> wrote:
John,
Honestly I shouldn't have bothered responding to his email as it was clearly
just meant to be a diversion. However:
Chris opposes it so it clearly wa
Jesse
Not sure who else you are referring to but Chris is not a sitting AC member.
Thanks
John
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On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:48 AM, "Jesse Geddis"
mailto:je...@la-broadband.com>> wrote:
Rotflol conspiracy theories abound. Completely ignoring the fact that the two
folks to broache
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Paul Timmins wrote:
> >
> > From: arin-discuss-boun...@arin.net [arin-discuss-boun...@arin.net] on
> behalf of Martin Hannigan [hanni...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:02 PM
> > To: William Herrin
> > Cc: arin
On Mar 31, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Paul Timmins wrote:
>>
>> From: arin-discuss-boun...@arin.net [arin-discuss-boun...@arin.net] on
>> behalf of Martin Hannigan [hanni...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:02 PM
>> To: William Herrin
>> Cc: arin-ppml
I have taken the direction to not submit a proposal since this particular
subject has been requested to go through the suggestion process by John Curran.
This will be reviewed and addressed by the BOT.
The number assigned to this: Suggestion ID 2014.7
Should anyone choose to follow how the BO
On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:06 PM, David Huberman
wrote:
> John,
>
> Thank you for your speedy and helpful reply.
>
> I will note you close your email with the implication that a desire by the
> participants of ARIN's public fora to alter the Board's bylaws is not a
> policy development activity.
care about ARIN's future, I think.
David R Huberman
Microsoft Corporation
Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
-Original Message-
From: John Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:28 PM
To: David Huberman
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] [ari
On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:01 PM, David Huberman
wrote:
> I apologize if I sound combative, but I strongly dislike this suggestion.
David -
I noted it as an option because it is the mailing list documented for
that purpose in the suggestion process.
> John, when there is time, can staff
John Curran wrote:
"If mandatory terms limits are desired for the ARIN Board of Trustees or ARIN
AC,
it would be best to write up the specific suggestion and submit the ARIN
consultation
and suggestion process, as noted by John Springer. I will bring the proposal
and
results of the discussion
)
-Original Message-
From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf
Of Azinger, Marla
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:35 AM
To: John Springer
Cc: arin-disc...@arin.net; arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal
Hi John
My personal email address just celebrated its 25th year of continuous service
last October.
It seems to work fine. If it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.
Alex
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the intended recipients. Any unauthorized int
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Jason Schiller wrote:
> The 360 degree review was Martin's suggestion. At the time it sounded
> like it mean a review for every angle (360 degrees in a circle).
>
You mean by adding in the ASO AC to the term limits requirement as well as
the BoT and the AC? If s
The 360 degree review was Martin's suggestion. At the time it sounded like
it mean a review for every angle (360 degrees in a circle).
Bill Darte is an upstanding member of the AC, and I personally wish he
would continue to serve, but it seemed pretty clear that his intent is to
not continue. Su
It doesn't matter if he says he's not running again. If we generically
want to make a seat appointed then fine but he has every right to change
his mind and run again. Leave AC member's names out of it.
Thanks
Cathy
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Scott Leibrand wrote:
> Bill already sa
Bill already said earlier on the thread he wasn't planning to run again.
Scott
> On Mar 26, 2014, at 5:29 PM, CJ Aronson wrote:
>
> Could you explain why you're talking about Bill Darte's seat as if he is not
> on the AC serving a term to which he was duly elected? There is no
> prohibition
Hi Jason,
Pardon my ignorance please, but what is "a 365 degree assessment."? A
quick google turns up 365 degree total marketing and 360 degree
assessments and 360 degree feedback. Is this like the Talking Heads 365
degrees? a typo?
Also, Bill D. has been talked out of not running before. It
Could you explain why you're talking about Bill Darte's seat as if he is
not on the AC serving a term to which he was duly elected? There is no
prohibition about him running for a subsequent term at this point either.
Bill has been an outstanding member of the AC and has done significant work
for
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Scott Leibrand
wrote:
| Here are some of the problems I see with the AC. I think term limits
would
| help with all of them, though it wouldn't be a panacea, and it may be
| possible to come up with better solutions to each one of them:
I wonder if it would be wo
On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:58 AM, John Springer wrote:
> OK, I'm game. But it looks like a lot of ground to cover from here to there.
> It might make a nice change from deck chairs though. Is restructuring the AC
> in scope for the AC?
The scope of the ARIN AC is Internet numbering resource policie
It's going to be a little hard to know to whom I am replying due to
non-indentation of replies, but I'll do my best.
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014, Scott Leibrand wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Chris Grundemann wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Scott Leibrand
wrote:
IMO the
Scott said:
"IMO the AC tends to be a little bit slow to incorporate new ideas and
approaches. More new faces would help with that. We also tend a little
bit toward becoming a social and travel club. I don't think that is a
serious problem, yet, but I definitely worry about how many of us stay o
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Scott Leibrand wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Chris Grundemann
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Scott Leibrand
>> wrote:
>>
>>> IMO the problem (for the AC, not the BoT) is that all turnover comes
>>> from resignations and people deciding
On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Azinger, Marla wrote:
> Hi John
>
> Given the response I think an official proposal needs to be written. I'm
> happy to see the acceptance of a written proposal will be received for due
> process and not turned over to the recycling bin for "not being a policy
>
Hi John
Given the response I think an official proposal needs to be written. I'm happy
to see the acceptance of a written proposal will be received for due process
and not turned over to the recycling bin for "not being a policy topic".
I will try to get that turned in this week.
Regards
Marl
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Chris Grundemann wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Scott Leibrand
> wrote:
>
>> IMO the problem (for the AC, not the BoT) is that all turnover comes from
>> resignations and people deciding not to run again. It's very rare that an
>> incumbent fails to ge
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Scott Leibrand wrote:
> IMO the problem (for the AC, not the BoT) is that all turnover comes from
> resignations and people deciding not to run again. It's very rare that an
> incumbent fails to get re-elected. Given what I've observed as an AC
> member of the la
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:58 AM, John Brown wrote:
> Industry capture is actually something that could be prevented by term
> limits.
>
Exactly the opposite is quite possible, actually. As has been pointed out
already, large organizations can throw a new person into the election (or
large group
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Scott Leibrand wrote:
> IMO the problem (for the AC, not the BoT) is that all turnover comes from
> resignations and people deciding not to run again. It's very rare that an
> incumbent fails to get re-elected. Given what I've observed as an AC
> member of
>
Thi
On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Bill Darte wrote:
> Being the poster-child of offense to those who consider term-limits a good
> idea finishing my 5th elected term(and last) this yearI assure you I
> am not replying out of guilt.
In my opinion, this is sad news, indeed. You continue to b
Speaking only for myself as one of the often more controversial members of the
AC, I will say that I have been pleasantly surprised
each time I have been re-elected. While I do vote for myself when applicable, I
only have the ability to cast 3 votes as I am the DMR for
three organizations, all IS
IMO the problem (for the AC, not the BoT) is that all turnover comes from
resignations and people deciding not to run again. It's very rare that an
incumbent fails to get re-elected. Given what I've observed as an AC
member of the large diversity in contribution levels from my colleagues on
the A
Being the poster-child of offense to those who consider term-limits a good
idea finishing my 5th elected term(and last) this yearI assure you
I am not replying out of guilt.
I reflect on a quote by Daniel Defoe. "All evils are to be considered with
the good that is in them, and with what
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 09:59:32AM -0700, Scott Leibrand wrote:
> > I support term limits for the AC. From my experience 6 years is about
> when
> > burnout starts to hit, so I think that's a good time to take a 1 year
> > break. (I consi
Message-
From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf
Of Andrew Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:13 PM
To: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 09:59:32AM -0700, Scott Leibrand wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 09:59:32AM -0700, Scott Leibrand wrote:
> I support term limits for the AC. From my experience 6 years is about when
> burnout starts to hit, so I think that's a good time to take a 1 year
> break. (I considered doing so myself this year, but narrowly decided
> against it
Hi Marla,
The current PDP requires only two things for a policy proposal to be
accepted as a Draft Policy, to have a clear problem statement and be in
scope for the AC.
I am sure all AC members will be delighted to work with you to arrive at
the former. I am less sure how successful we will
John
The ARIN website has all the data you refer to here. It even has how many
votes each candidate got in each election. You can also google "ARIN
election results " to find a particular year.
Cathy
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:58 PM, John Brown wrote:
> Industry capture is actually som
Here are links that will answer your questions about the AC and the BoT
https://www.arin.net/about_us/bot.html
https://www.arin.net/about_us/ac.html
---Cathy
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Michael Wallace wrote:
> What is AC or BoT?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael Wallace
>
> ---
The AC is the ARIN Advisory Council: https://www.arin.net/about_us/ac.html
The BoT is the ARIN Board of Trustees:
https://www.arin.net/about_us/bot.html
-Scott
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Michael Wallace wrote:
> What is AC or BoT?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael Wallace
>
> -
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Azinger, Marla wrote:
> Having been on the AC for a 6 years I support a term limit for the AC.
>
>
>
> When on my 4th year I pursued creating a term limit. At the time I was
> told this was an action the BOT would have to take. No action was taken.
> Later I inq
What is AC or BoT?
Thanks,
Michael Wallace
From: "John Brown"
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:52 AM
To: "Azinger, Marla"
Cc: "arin-disc...@arin.net" , "arin-ppml@arin.net"
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal
I would support this for b
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Paul Timmins wrote:
> I have concerns that forcing people out of a position where people
> repeatedly vote for them is undemocratic,
>
Paul,
It would be interesting to tally the votes available to the respective
bodies (all ORG-IDs). I wonder if there is some h
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014, Paul Timmins wrote:
Additionally, the proposal is being floated by someone who has been on the BOT
for 6 years, and thus their judgement may be clouded because they've been on
the BOT too
long.
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