Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against 2013-4)

2013-06-13 Thread Scott Leibrand
On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:35 AM, wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:05:12 -0400 > > Hi Mike, > > It feels like we have been here before, > > "Mike Burns" wrote: >> Hi Brian, >> I understand that there is a danger of overpurchasing (by whomever's >> definition) that comes from the removal of a needs

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against 2013-4)

2013-06-13 Thread Mike Burns
.net Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:35 AM To: Mike Burns Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against 2013-4) On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:05:12 -0400 Hi Mike, It feels like we have been here before, "Mike Burns" wrote: Hi Brian

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against 2013-4)

2013-06-13 Thread lar
Jones To: Mike Burns Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net ; Mike Burns Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against 2013-4) Hi Mike, I suppose it is just my old school thinking that you should be at least "this tall&

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against 2013-4)

2013-06-13 Thread Brian Jones
rease the possibility for networking instability and router misconfiguration issues. -- Brian > Regards, > Mike > > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Brian Jones > *To:* Mike Burns > *Cc:* arin-ppml@arin.net ; Mike Burns > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 12,

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against 2013-4)

2013-06-12 Thread Mike Burns
sting transfers. Regards, Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Jones To: Mike Burns Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net ; Mike Burns Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against 2013-4) Hi Mike, I suppo

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against 2013-4)

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Ryerse
; Mike Burns; ARIN PPML Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against 2013-4) On Wed, 12 Jun 2013, Steven Ryerse wrote: > Certainly the big guys can take care of themselves but they shouldn't > be arbitrarily excluded. Huh? How are they exc

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out (was:Re:Against 2013-4)

2013-06-12 Thread Brandon Ross
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013, Steven Ryerse wrote: Certainly the big guys can take care of themselves but they shouldn't be arbitrarily excluded. Huh? How are they excluded? I think this change should apply to the free pool as well. Obviously hoarding isn't good but there is only so much that can b

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out (was:Re:Against 2013-4)

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Ryerse
erse; Mike Burns Cc: ARIN PPML Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out (was:Re:Against 2013-4) >Don't know if a /12 cap would work if a big guy like tmobile or >Microsoft applied for a larger allocation. It is fine for most organizations >though.

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out (was:Re:Against 2013-4)

2013-06-12 Thread Mike Burns
ne 12, 2013 10:26 AM To: Mike Burns Cc: ARIN PPML Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out (was:Re:Against 2013-4) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 12, 2013, at 10:21 AM, "Mike Burns" wrote: Hi Steve, Bill, Brandon, Thanks for your input. Yes, I should have