On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> It may be that adding a statement to policy that any organization which does
> not meet the strict
> definition of “End User” is therefore considered an ISP for policy purposes.
Something along the lines of, "An organization which reassigns any
Owen: "...*but I don’t believe that would help because I believe that
anything which does not meet the definition of an “end user” is de fact an
ISP*." OK, this makes sense. But...what about the cdn's and similar uses?
Then, should the 'end user' definition be broadened or changed?
David: "*In wha
Good thoughts and valid points David,
> David wrote:
>
> So a possible solution is to redefine:
>
> ISP offers last-mile connectivity
> Everyone else is an EU.
>
and I like the direction your going but there is no requirement for
your ISP to provide the last mile or even have a pop in your city.
Thanks, Owen.
Moving to the issue at hand, then, I have a problem with your wording.
You wrote:
"Because as an end-user so long as we have IPv4, I count addresses assigned to
hosts, while as an ISP, I count
networks delegated to subscribers."
Then what's Microsoft? What's Akamai?
Microsoft h
ilto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Owen DeLong
> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 3:42 PM
> To: Jose R. de la Cruz III
> Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal ARIN-2015-8
>
> Not speaking for John, but I don’t believe that would help because I bel
Owen DeLong
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 3:42 PM
To: Jose R. de la Cruz III
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal ARIN-2015-8
Not speaking for John, but I don’t believe that would help because I believe
that anything which
does not meet the definition of an “end user” is de
Not speaking for John, but I don’t believe that would help because I believe
that anything which
does not meet the definition of an “end user” is de fact an ISP.
Creating a clear definition of “ISP” would likely, instead, create a new
category of organizations
which fit neither defined category
John:
Thanks for the additional info. It looks like the problem brought forth in
the referenced document was never completely solved. Because an end user is
defined as "*an organization receiving assignments of IP addresses
exclusively for use in its operational networks*.", it is my opinion that
On Dec 4, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Jose R. de la Cruz III
mailto:jrdelac...@acm.org>> wrote:
RE: ARIN-2015-8
4. Should End-Users who want to be able to re-assign records simply be
required to become ISPs?
--->No. Why should they?
5. Should the ISP/End-User distinction be eliminated (which is
RE: ARIN-2015-8
4. Should End-Users who want to be able to re-assign records simply be
required to become ISPs?
--->No. Why should they?
5. Should the ISP/End-User distinction be eliminated (which is a bigger
discussion outside the scope of the current problem statement)?
---> No. They ar
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Christian Tacit wrote:
> I am writing on behalf of the ARIN AC to seek additional input from the
> community regarding how (or if) we should proceed with ARIN-2015-8.
Hi Christian,
My views are:
A. Abandon 2015-8. It's a poorly conceived answer to a wrong questio
On Dec 3, 2015 2:35 PM, "Christian Tacit" wrote:
>
> I am writing on behalf of the ARIN AC to seek additional input from the
community regarding how (or if) we should proceed with ARIN-2015-8.
>
>
>
> The feedback received at ARIN 36 and in subsequent AC discussions has
been very mixed and there i
I am writing on behalf of the ARIN AC to seek additional input from the
community regarding how (or if) we should proceed with ARIN-2015-8.
The feedback received at ARIN 36 and in subsequent AC discussions has been very
mixed and there is no community consensus for the proposal in its present fo
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