Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-09-27 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:22 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > Maybe there's a third way we're not seeing, like retiring e, adding > the new element as f, and then re-inserting the catchall some other > way, point g or as a sentence that follows the ordered list. Oooh, I like that--remove the catch-

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-09-25 Thread Brian Jones
I am in favor of this proposal. Relaxing the requirements could foster further IPv6 adoption. Brian Jones bjo...@vt.edu ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubs

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-09-01 Thread Gary T. Giesen
I support the policy as written. > -Original Message- > From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On > Behalf Of ARIN > Sent: September 1, 2015 1:21 PM > To: arin-ppml@arin.net > Subject: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-

[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-09-01 Thread ARIN
ARIN-2015-1 has been revised to show only the proposed addition to the policy. ARIN-2015-1 is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2015_1.html You are encouraged to discuss Draft Policy 2015-1 on the PPML prior to the ARIN Public Policy Consultation at ARIN 36 in Mon

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-26 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > Are we really going to spend this much time rethinking bullet points? What better opportunity will you have to learn how to write a policy draft _well_ than with one which is inoffensive? The knowledge and skill gained can serve you even with

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-26 Thread Owen DeLong
Are we really going to spend this much time rethinking bullet points? Move e to f, insert new e, move on. This is not a complicated proposal. It makes sense. I agree it is clearer as a diff with an attached redline than as a full replacement text. Beyond that, let’s leave it alone and move it

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-26 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Scott Leibrand wrote: > As shepherd, I would be inclined to revise the policy statement so that it > inserts e) and renumbers the current e) to f), rather than replacing the > entire section as currently worded. Basically that would just mean > promoting "b. Gener

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-25 Thread Scott Leibrand
Thanks, Scott > > > -Original Message- > > From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] > > On Behalf Of ARIN > > Sent: 23 June 2015 1:07 PM > > To: arin-ppml@arin.net > > Subject: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: &

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-25 Thread Gary T. Giesen
ent: June-25-15 2:32 PM To: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments I still do not think the problem statement is a real issue. If you have Multiple Discrete Networks (using the IPv4 terminolo

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-25 Thread Richard J. Letts
Message- > From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On > Behalf Of ARIN > Sent: 23 June 2015 1:07 PM > To: arin-ppml@arin.net > Subject: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to > Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignme

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-25 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Andrew Dul wrote: > Just so I understand you are opposed to the 'editorial' way the policy > was written, not the content of the actual changes? Well, that's kinda the crux of it. I don't think I'm opposed to the changes but to be sure I'd have to pull out the te

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-25 Thread Andrew Dul
On 6/25/2015 6:14 AM, William Herrin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:07 PM, ARIN wrote: >> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1 >> Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments > On second thought, I withdraw my support and oppose the policy draft > as written. While I approve

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-25 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:07 PM, ARIN wrote: > Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1 > Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments On second thought, I withdraw my support and oppose the policy draft as written. While I approve of the policy in concept, the draft commits two err

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-25 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Gary T. Giesen wrote: > While I appreciate your support of this policy, I'm a little confused about > your statement as this policy doesn't even deal with allocations of a single > /48. In fact, the current smallest prefix this policy deals with would be a > /40 (1

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-25 Thread Gary T. Giesen
fact that number was deliberately chosen because of that). Cheers, GTG Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: William Herrin Date: 2015-06-24 17:16 (GMT-05:00) To: Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modific

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-24 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:07 PM, ARIN wrote: > Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1 > Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments > Organizations may justify an initial assignment for addressing devices > directly attached to their own network infrastructure, with an intent for

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-23 Thread ggiesen+arin-ppml
implement technical hacks. Cheers, GTG From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Adam Thompson Sent: June-23-15 8:46 PM To: Matthew Kaufman; arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-23 Thread ggiesen+arin-ppml
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments On 6/23/2015 1:07 PM, ARIN wrote: > Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1 > Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments > I am of mixed opinio

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-23 Thread Adam Thompson
I'll point out that at my current employer, I cannot justify obtaining PI v6 space. So I've deployed ULA + NPT in order to guarantee uniqueness. I see IPv6 allocation making some of the same assumptions humans have made through time (e.g. "640k should be enough for anyone "), so I'm not sure I

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-23 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 6/23/2015 1:07 PM, ARIN wrote: Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1 Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments I am of mixed opinion on this policy. I agree that it should be quite easy for an organization to receive their own IPv6 space. And I was fully supportive unt

[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1: Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments

2015-06-23 Thread ARIN
Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-1 Modification to Criteria for IPv6 Initial End-User Assignments On 18 June 2015 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) recommended ARIN-2015-1 for adoption, making it a Recommended Draft Policy. ARIN-2015-1 is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/policy/pro