Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-29 Thread Chris Tyler
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:45 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: > Gordan Bobic writes: > > > Jon Masters wrote: > >> On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: > >> > >>> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out > >>> (where appropriate to the h/w). > >> > >> FWI

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-29 Thread Gordan Bobic
Jon Masters wrote: > On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:45 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: >> Gordan Bobic writes: >> >>> Jon Masters wrote: On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: > 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out > (where appropriate to the

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-29 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:45 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: > Gordan Bobic writes: > > > Jon Masters wrote: > >> On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: > >> > >>> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out > >>> (where appropriate to the h/w). > >> > >> FWI

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-29 Thread Derek Atkins
Gordan Bobic writes: > Jon Masters wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: >> >>> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out >>> (where appropriate to the h/w). >> >> FWIW, I think (eventually), moving to an ARMv7 base has a lot of >> benefit,

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-29 Thread Gordan Bobic
Jon Masters wrote: > On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: > >> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out >> (where appropriate to the h/w). > > FWIW, I think (eventually), moving to an ARMv7 base has a lot of > benefit, with not a (lot) of drawback. A

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-28 Thread Jon Masters
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: > 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out > (where appropriate to the h/w). FWIW, I think (eventually), moving to an ARMv7 base has a lot of benefit, with not a (lot) of drawback. After all, Fedora ARM is new eno

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Mar 26 2011, Gordan Bobic wrote: >> On 03/26/2011 09:10 PM, Matthew Wilson wrote: >> >>> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out >>> (where appropriate to the h/w). >> >> I suspect you'll find that NEO

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-27 Thread Michael Hope
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Mar 27 2011, Gordan Bobic wrote: >> On 03/27/2011 04:19 AM, Chris Ball wrote: >>> I suspect you're right that recompiling the world with NEON is no big >>> deal, but simply doing glibc/X/liboil/codecs should be a large win by >>>

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-27 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Sun, Mar 27 2011, Gordan Bobic wrote: > On 03/27/2011 04:19 AM, Chris Ball wrote: >> I suspect you're right that recompiling the world with NEON is no big >> deal, but simply doing glibc/X/liboil/codecs should be a large win by >> itself. In those cases there's pre-vectorized code sitting

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-27 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 03/27/2011 04:19 AM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Mar 26 2011, Gordan Bobic wrote: >> On 03/26/2011 09:10 PM, Matthew Wilson wrote: >> >>> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out >>> (where appropriate to the h/w). >> >> I suspect you'll find that NEON won't ma

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-26 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Sat, Mar 26 2011, Gordan Bobic wrote: > On 03/26/2011 09:10 PM, Matthew Wilson wrote: > >> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out >> (where appropriate to the h/w). > > I suspect you'll find that NEON won't make a noticeable difference, at > least not until: I

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-26 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 03/26/2011 09:10 PM, Matthew Wilson wrote: > 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out > (where appropriate to the h/w). I suspect you'll find that NEON won't make a noticeable difference, at least not until: 1) GCC can do worthwhile vectorization - I've yet to try

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-26 Thread Matthew Wilson
On 25 March 2011 21:53, Paul Whalen wrote: > We are asking users of Fedora ARM for some feedback. Is there something > missing? Is the software included so far working as expected? Any other > suggestions? Please forward feedback to the mailing list Most things are working well. I think the F13

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-25 Thread rihowa...@gmail.com
On Mar 25, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Paul Whalen wrote: > > Fedora 13 ARM users can now update to use a new repository composed on March > 23rd. This new compose adds additional software and includes software groups. > > > The Beta2 has been signed with a new key. If you are currently running the >

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-25 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Paul Whalen wrote: > > Fedora 13 ARM users can now update to use a new repository composed on March > 23rd. This new compose adds additional software and includes software > groups. > > > The Beta2 has been signed with a new key. If you are currently running the >

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-25 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 03/25/2011 09:53 PM, Paul Whalen wrote: > > Fedora 13 ARM users can now update to use a new repository composed on > March 23rd. This new compose adds additional software and includes > software groups. > > > The Beta2 has been signed with a new key. If you are currently running > the Beta1 you

[fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-25 Thread Paul Whalen
Fedora 13 ARM users can now update to use a new repository composed on March 23rd. This new compose adds additional software and includes software groups. The Beta2 has been signed with a new key. If you are currently running the Beta1 you will need to install the new key which can be done by