Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:16 PM, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote: > Sounds like the divisions sadly are deeper than I thought. it's not "divisions", it's very simple: the EOMA68 Certification Mark requires that people Certify the products that they intend to manufacture and sell, for safety rea

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-07-06 Thread Isaac David
Pablo : Probably a good idea to use mainline libre-linux, but first want to make a diff file comparing their fork with libre to make sure their aren't any drivers which are libre that we might need (or any bug-fixes). There is a deblob script used by Parabola Linux to liberate a mainline k

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread Kyle
According to dumblob: # I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and was # surprised by the range of libre products they sell. Looking at the laptops, they're all refurbished Thinkpads with Intel inside. I would perform a libre installation on such hardware if someone already

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 04:06:13PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > btw what i suspect is that tch is expecting to blithely copy the > entire EOMA68-A20 hardware, with the expectation of spongeing off of > the time and effort put into it. just like he did by spongeing off of > chris's

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
btw what i suspect is that tch is expecting to blithely copy the entire EOMA68-A20 hardware, with the expectation of spongeing off of the time and effort put into it. just like he did by spongeing off of chris's work with the AR9271 chain of devices. what he doesn't realise is that it's dangerous

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:32 PM, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote: > Anyway, we two seem to agree that talking to Tehnoetic is worth a try > when EOMA68-A20 is ready. mmm no. i'm not going to initiate any conversations: i know enough to know that doing so would not be a good idea. effort wh

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 09:36:13AM -0400, zap wrote: > On 07/06/2017 09:35 AM, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 06:57:32AM -0400, zap wrote: > >> On 07/06/2017 06:04 AM, dumblob wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:36 PM, zap wrote: > Well, I hope your right, he has been acting odd if you use trisquel > forums... you will see what I mean... i know what to expect - i've seen it happen before. people get it into their heads that i'm a threat (or in this case that chris is a threat

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread zap
On 07/06/2017 09:35 AM, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 06:57:32AM -0400, zap wrote: >> On 07/06/2017 06:04 AM, dumblob wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and was >>> surprised by the range of libre products they sell. Tec

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 06:57:32AM -0400, zap wrote: > On 07/06/2017 06:04 AM, dumblob wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and was > > surprised by the range of libre products they sell. Technoethical is > > also RYF (https://ryf.fsf.org/ ) certified. >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread zap
On 07/06/2017 07:29 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, zap wrote: > > >> Alas, the owner of that company says that eoma68-a20 is not libre >> hardware... > this does not surprise me. if he has been talking to the guy known > as "francis", who is best kno

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, zap wrote: > Alas, the owner of that company says that eoma68-a20 is not libre > hardware... this does not surprise me. if he has been talking to the guy known as "francis", who is best known for selling thinkpad x200 libre laptops, but is less well-known for

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-07-06 Thread Pablo Rath
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 04:48:28PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > If you want sound information, indeed, such forums tend to be pretty > hard to use. The linux-sunxi website and mailing lists are a lot better > (and a lot more technical as a consequence). Thank you for the recommendations, Stefan.

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-07-06 Thread Pablo
This is a quite late reply to some Emails on this list from May. I took some time to research and test. John, do you still work on liberating Pocketchip? Good news is that I managed to install Debian Stretch (current stable) with Debian Installer on a USB-stick. The CHIP OS based on Debian by Nex

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread zap
On 07/06/2017 06:57 AM, zap wrote: > > On 07/06/2017 06:04 AM, dumblob wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and was >> surprised by the range of libre products they sell. Technoethical is >> also RYF (https://ryf.fsf.org/ ) certified. >> >> Luke, it might

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread zap
On 07/06/2017 06:04 AM, dumblob wrote: > Hi, > > I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and was > surprised by the range of libre products they sell. Technoethical is > also RYF (https://ryf.fsf.org/ ) certified. > > Luke, it might be worth contacting them with EOMA notebooks.

[Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread dumblob
Hi, I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and was surprised by the range of libre products they sell. Technoethical is also RYF (https://ryf.fsf.org/ ) certified. Luke, it might be worth contacting them with EOMA notebooks. Cheers, -- Jan __