Re: [Arm-netbook] Urgent statement on Cryptocurrency ethics

2018-03-21 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:40 AM, Hrvoje Lasic wrote: > I completely disagree. You are mixing block chain and cryptocurrencies. not entirely > Also, I disagree on second point. We still have ` power at the hands of > central banks, corrupt governments, expensive and flawed judicial systems, > ov

Re: [Arm-netbook] Urgent statement on Cryptocurrency ethics

2018-03-21 Thread Hrvoje Lasic
I completely disagree. You are mixing block chain and cryptocurrencies. Also, I disagree on second point. We still have ` power at the hands of central banks, corrupt governments, expensive and flawed judicial systems, overcharging and underpayment by unethical insurance companies` *This is my mai

Re: [Arm-netbook] Urgent statement on Cryptocurrency ethics

2018-03-21 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 9:16 PM, Hrvoje Lasic wrote: > ask yourself simple question: If all cryptocurencies are gone tomorrow, > what would you miss? crypto-currencies are literally the first time in human history where contracts can be made and honoured between one or more parties in an atomic

Re: [Arm-netbook] Urgent statement on Cryptocurrency ethics

2018-03-21 Thread Tor, the Marqueteur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/21/2018 11:03 AM, zap wrote: > > I think it is safe to say that cryptocurrencies aren't very > feasible right now. > > My thoughts are: Liberapay is a good idea, > > I don't know if anything else is anywhere near as good. Liberapay is good, t

Re: [Arm-netbook] Urgent statement on Cryptocurrency ethics

2018-03-21 Thread Hrvoje Lasic
On 21 March 2018 at 21:58, Sam Huntress wrote: > Excessive power consumption by bitcoin miners is an indication that either > power is undervalued, bitcoin is overvalued, or both. ask yourself simple question: If all cryptocurencies are gone tomorrow, what would you miss? __

Re: [Arm-netbook] Urgent statement on Cryptocurrency ethics

2018-03-21 Thread zap
>> Yep, the Monero devs are very much dedicated to "egalitarian mining", >> which I think gets closer to Satoshi's original intent,[1][2] and makes >> something like javascript browser-based mining possible, which then >> opens up an entire new set of ethical concerns, even if it's a tiny step >>

Re: [Arm-netbook] Urgent statement on Cryptocurrency ethics

2018-03-21 Thread Sam Huntress
Excessive power consumption by bitcoin miners is an indication that either power is undervalued, bitcoin is overvalued, or both. > On Mar 21, 2018, at 3:48 PM, KRT Listmaster wrote: > > Now the discussion is starting to get interesting > > On 03/21/2018 07:11 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leight

Re: [Arm-netbook] Urgent statement on Cryptocurrency ethics

2018-03-21 Thread KRT Listmaster
Now the discussion is starting to get interesting On 03/21/2018 07:11 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: [...] > > *if* people agree - world-wide - to slow down on the mining *then* > the hashrate - world-wide - will slow down. however the only way > that's actually realistically lik

Re: [Arm-netbook] Urgent statement on Cryptocurrency ethics

2018-03-21 Thread Louis Pearson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 8:11 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Wookey wrote: > > On 2018-03-20 21:44 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > > >> https://www.theguardian.com/tec

Re: [Arm-netbook] Urgent statement on Cryptocurrency ethics

2018-03-21 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Wookey wrote: > On 2018-03-20 21:44 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > >> >> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/20/child-abuse-imagery-bitcoin-blockchain-illegal-content > > Th

Re: [Arm-netbook] Urgent statement on Cryptocurrency ethics

2018-03-21 Thread Wookey
On 2018-03-20 21:44 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/20/child-abuse-imagery-bitcoin-blockchain-illegal-content There's always someone isn't there? This is why we can't have nice things. I'm quite surprised that the format allows inclusion of rando