Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices

2007-09-20 Thread Axton
You could write an api program that would hit all threads on all queues, only problem with this approach is that it will block ALL operations on the server for all the queues you are hitting. This would also have to be timed with the state expiration policy on the firewall, which for most firewall

Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices

2007-09-20 Thread Carey Matthew Black
Just a few WAGs... I am not sure if these would cause DB IO for each thread or not: Maybe you could force the server to re-read is db? ( arsignal -g ) Maybe you could change an ARS object's helptext and try force the server to shake the threads You could also write a small api program t

Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices

2007-09-20 Thread J.T. Shyman
ubject: Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices The best solution would be if ARServer had a configuration option, a thread keep-alive if you will, that would do this. This would avoid the busy system errors that sessions will get if all threads are busy. Axton Grams On 9/20/07, J.T. Shym

Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices

2007-09-20 Thread Axton
> > -Original Message- > From: Axton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices > > The escalation is (was) single threaded; in order to send traffic over > every db connection, you

Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices

2007-09-20 Thread J.T. Shyman
ons open. It does amaze me, though, that BMC can call ARS an "enterprise" product when it behaves so badly with stateful firewalls. J.T. Shyman Column Technologies Cell: 404-242-5407 -Original Message- From: Axton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1

Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices

2007-09-19 Thread Axton
The escalation is (was) single threaded; in order to send traffic over every db connection, you have to exercise every thread. Since the escalation engine is single threaded, it will only occupy that one thread. If you notice in the arerror.log that all filter errors reported show 390693 as the r

Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices

2007-09-19 Thread patrick zandi
Why not an afterhour escalation... instead.. Say every 10 minutes.. to do table queries or a report or two.. from 1800 - 0712 or something... On 9/19/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Actually, now that I re-read your post I don't think putting a > specific rule will side-step state check

Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices

2007-09-19 Thread Axton
"Actually, now that I re-read your post I don't think putting a specific rule will side-step state checking." Depends on your firewall and the rule. Typically, states are created using only SYN packets, if state can be created on other packet types, you are still using stateful packet inspection,

Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices

2007-09-19 Thread J.T. Shyman
Axton, Appreciate your input! I should have mentioned that we've been up and down that highway and haven't seen a blasted thing. (apologies to Glen Frey) What you are saying is exactly what I thought and we've disabled the idle timeout on the firewall. I know this ma

Re: ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices

2007-09-19 Thread Axton
Your firewall is probably using state tracking to track which machines are allowed to talk with one another and the timeouts associated with state tracking are configured to time out after x seconds of inactivity. Since many of the connections between the db and the arserver are idle at night, the

ARS 7/Oracle and Firewalls/Network devices

2007-09-19 Thread J.T. Shyman
Hello all, Does anyone on this list have any experience with AR 7 on RHEL 4 and Oracle 10g where the AR server and Oracle server are off two different interfaces on a firewall? The reason I ask: We are currently working in an environment where the AR Server is in one VLAN, the Oracle