Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Terry Bootsma
g. Terry _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller Sent: February-19-14 6:44 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** We do not notice a difference between producti

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Manish SINGLA
[cid:image001.png@01CF2E07.0DC0ED70] From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Suresh Loganathan Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:10 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** Team

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Joe D'Souza
on production servers. Joe _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:22 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** Joe, I'm no

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Jason Miller
gt;> >> And as Rick pointed out, this need not be enabled on production servers. >> >> >> >> Joe >> >> >> -- >> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *LJ LongWing >&

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Axton
Watch the sql logs on startup and you will find ypur answer. Look at the queruwles, data beingbreturned and ask yourself if it makes sense. You can get it to start faster by deletung all the objects on the server. Last time I looked, the long startup time has less to do with the cache operation

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread LJ LongWing
e enabled on production servers. > > > > Joe > > > -- > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *LJ LongWing > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:22 PM > > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Sub

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Joe D'Souza
@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:22 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** Joe, I'm not entirely sure that your statement regarding Object Relationships during startup is correct. I can guarantee you

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Simon Ellis
) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Simon Ellis Sent: 19 February 2014 19:58 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** In our server group configuration start up of each server takes about 8-9 minutes, but that's due to partly BMC deliv

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Joe D'Souza
, 2014 4:19 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** Which is why object relationships should only be enabled on non-production servers. Rick On Feb 19, 2014 1:13 PM, "Joe D'Souza" wrote: ** This one is true - it is be

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread LJ LongWing
> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *LJ > LongWing > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:15 AM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Why does the AR

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Rick Cook
> > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Tauf Chowdhury > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:15 AM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Carl Wilson
@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Simon Ellis Sent: 19 February 2014 19:58 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** In our server group configuration start up of each server takes about 8-9 minutes, but that's due to partly BMC delivering our sol

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Joe D'Souza
tion Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:15 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** Shawn, In later versions of Remedy, you have the options to u

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread patchsk
The fastest I have seen are 30 sec restart time for a non-ITSM ARS instance including server group. 3.5 min restart for a full ITSM instance including server group. Everytime I see longer restart times it is due to bad network card config,non-full duplex connection,ars and db are not on same subn

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Sanford, Claire
System claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:08 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** Talking with a

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Simon Ellis
RSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Thursday, 20 February 2014 7:29 a.m. To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** Based on the feedback here and off the list, would you all consider a start time between 2 - 3 minutes to be acceptable? I

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Jason Miller
eloper | Energy Transfer > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Suresh Loganathan > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:40 AM > > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Why does the ARS Servic

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Pierson, Shawn
t: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** Team, Recently faced the same. followed felow points then i got BMC support. 1. Taken arstartup log to check the time consuming. 2. sent the ar.conf file. BMC recommended to change some configuration setting. 3. Apart from remedy end, n

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Suresh Loganathan
eloper | Energy Transfer > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *LJ > LongWing > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:15 AM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Charlie Lotridge
users, and time the startup times of both. > > > > Thanks, > > > > *Shawn Pierson * > > Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *LJ > LongWin

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
t; Thanks, > > Shawn Pierson > Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:15 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Why do

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Jason Bess
I recently had a client experiencing ~15-20 minute startup times for each server. Turned out to be an issue with McAfee. The On Access scan was trying (unsuccessfully) to scan each plugin dll as it was loaded. Causing the system to hang until McAfee timed out. Stopping McAfee while starting ARS

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Pierson, Shawn
nergy Transfer From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:15 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start? ** Shawn, In later versions of Remedy, you

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Jason Miller
I agree with the object count. Out older 7.6.04 servers with custom apps and HD takes 30 seconds to start. Our 8.1. ITSM servers take 2.5 minutes to start. Roughly guessing, there are probably about 4x the number of objects in our ITSM systems. Also our User count in ITSM vs. old system is about 1

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread LJ LongWing
Shawn, In later versions of Remedy, you have the options to utilize multiple threads during the startup. As Rick points out, the main thing that Remedy is doing is pulling metadata out of the DB and storing it in RAM. So, there is a direct correlation between how many forms/fields/etc that you ha

Re: Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Rick Cook
Users and groups are cached at startup. I am sure there are other factors, but I know that's one variable. Rick On Feb 19, 2014 4:58 AM, "Pierson, Shawn" wrote: > ** > > Since I have nothing better to do (just kidding, I'm swamped) I wanted to > see if anyone on the list had a good explanation

Why does the ARS Service take so long to start?

2014-02-19 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Since I have nothing better to do (just kidding, I'm swamped) I wanted to see if anyone on the list had a good explanation for something that has been an issue across multiple versions of Remedy for years. Specifically, on Windows, why does it take so long for Remedy to start up, and is there a