[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $500M hotel-pier plan to be unveiled 1Long Branch may get ferry Electrify the Coast Line down to Bay Head. Phase 1 is to AP. Even before that, expand the express train from Long Branch that I think only runs on

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread oakdorf
Electrify the Coast Line down to Bay Head. Phase 1 is to AP. Long Branch beat Asbury at that years ago, even though AP had invested in the Transporation Center that was...poorly designed, but breathed new hope. Mass transportation in NJ stinks for the most part. Express service would

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread Hinge
Mass transportation in Europe blows away America. You can get a train from just about any city to another, and it's clean, cheap and a great way to get around. I spent about 2 weeks in Japan a few years back, and the Bullet train was an amazing and refined experience. This afternoon on my

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to Japan. You can live a couple hundred miles out and still get to Tokyo for work. Yeah, but sex is better here and you don't have to bow to anyone. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know people love their gas guzzling SUVs, but boy do I hate them. If you see a dark blue Range Rover with NY Plates (MAI) bearing down on you - smile ;) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread Hinge
Plus my feet don't hang over the bed in US hotels, nor do I have to duck to get into the room. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Go to Japan. You can live a couple hundred miles out and still

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread Hinge
Will do. I guess if I was a normal 47 year old, married with kids, i'd probably be less of an SUV hater. Plus, i'm one of those annoying environmentally aware people that some like to call tree huggers --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will do. I guess if I was a normal 47 year old, married with kids, i'd probably be less of an SUV hater. Plus, i'm one of those annoying environmentally aware people that some like to call tree huggers Hey, I consider myself

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread Hinge
Great post Dan. I'm totally with you on all that you are saying. Interesting that you mentioned increased use of bicycles. There are so many short trips that people could take on their bike instead of using a car. Somehow here in America, the bicycle has somewhat been forgotten to a large

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread Gary Wien
On Aug 7, 2007, at 5:27 PM, dfsavgny wrote: What is the solution? Conservation and reduction of emissions. Forget biofuels, fuel from coal or even hydrogen-cells (like to see a crash with those suckers). Hybrids good, but gasoline is more efficient once the vehicle is moving. Electric when

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread justifiedright
Isn't electricity produced by burning coal? How would electric cars decrease our carbon footprint? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 7, 2007, at 5:27 PM, dfsavgny wrote: What is the solution? Conservation and reduction of emissions. Forget

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread Gary Wien
On Aug 7, 2007, at 6:38 PM, Hinge wrote: I'm with you on this, but unfortunately it's the government and it's ties to the oil industry that are the problem. Not only that, but even though it's the right thing to do for the environment and for future generations, imagine trying to shut

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread oakdorf
Yeah, but sex is better here and you don't have to bow to anyone. that depends. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread Hinge
Good point. Of course, there are other ways to produce electricity, like solar and wind power. There's a house right down the street from me that just installed a nice array of solar panels. Imagine if you had solar at home and at your work place? You could charge up by plugging into your

[AsburyPark] Re: Long Branch continues to kick Asbury in the a** A Better Plan

2007-08-07 Thread justifiedright
True, but everytime they try to build windmills, the enviro groups still fight it. Usually because of birds or sightscapes. That's why I always doubt their sincerity - they're in it for the fight, not the solution. Windmills are a no brainer for me - I have no problem with hundreds of them 5